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hooah212002
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Message 15 of 577 (553327)
04-02-2010 7:06 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by sac51495
04-02-2010 5:06 PM


the underlying philosophy of atheism.
What is the underlying philosophy of people who don't collect baseball cards?
To be more specific, does the starting point for atheism account for all the abstract entities that we know are present, such as the laws of logic, morals, ethics, and other such entities.
In a nutshell: we are a social species and want to further our kind. It does mankind a world of good to treat each other with respect in order to attain that goal.
1 man alone will be ripped to shreds by Earth.
A group of humans can tame the land and benefit from it.
because it is hard for the facts to convince someone that their worldview is wrong, because those facts are interpreted in different ways depending on that particular person's underlying philosophy.
Facts are facts. They are not swayed by opinion. You are entitled to believe, for example, that the earth is flat. You would be wrong, of course, no matter what your underlying philosophy is, due to the facts we have learned of that tell us otherwise.
(just note that I strictly used the flat earth as example material only. I do not intend to drag this discussion on a neverending journey about the flat earth)
1. The Bible commands us not to. (Matt. 7:24,26; Matt. 12:30; Rom. 14:23; Heb. 11:6)
I, personally, don't give a shit what "the" bible says. It also says to kill your children if they misbehave/backtalk, but we don't do that, do we?
I will not go in to detail to explain why neutrality is impossible, but statement #2 rests on the fact that atheists (who claim to be neutral) are in no way neutral, and if they were neutral, they could not believe anything.
Atheism doesn't believe anything. An atheist individual may choose to believe in something, but not due to his/her atheism.
Perhaps i would point out that in my opinion, staunch atheism is almost as surreal as the position of staunch religiosity, in that you claim to be absolutely certain of something which we, as humans with our current knowledge, are unable to be certain of. This is why there are so many levels of atheism and agnosticism.
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"Some people think God is an outsized, light-skinned male with a long white beard, sitting on a throne somewhere up there in the sky, busily tallying the fall of every sparrow. Othersfor example Baruch Spinoza and Albert Einsteinconsidered God to be essentially the sum total of the physical laws which describe the universe. I do not know of any compelling evidence for anthropomorphic patriarchs controlling human destiny from some hidden celestial vantage point, but it would be madness to deny the existence of physical laws."-Carl Sagan
"Show me where Christ said "Love thy fellow man, except for the gay ones." Gay people, too, are made in my God's image. I would never worship a homophobic God." -Desmond Tutu

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hooah212002
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Message 16 of 577 (553329)
04-02-2010 7:11 PM


I often wonder if people of Abrahamic faith define atheists as anyone who doesn't believe in their particular god.

"Some people think God is an outsized, light-skinned male with a long white beard, sitting on a throne somewhere up there in the sky, busily tallying the fall of every sparrow. Othersfor example Baruch Spinoza and Albert Einsteinconsidered God to be essentially the sum total of the physical laws which describe the universe. I do not know of any compelling evidence for anthropomorphic patriarchs controlling human destiny from some hidden celestial vantage point, but it would be madness to deny the existence of physical laws."-Carl Sagan
"Show me where Christ said "Love thy fellow man, except for the gay ones." Gay people, too, are made in my God's image. I would never worship a homophobic God." -Desmond Tutu

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