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Author Topic:   Richard Dawkins vs The Pope
Granny Magda
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Message 31 of 47 (555589)
04-14-2010 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by Hyroglyphx
04-14-2010 7:07 AM


Re: A Determinative Question at the Very Root of Morality Itself
Hi Hyro,
I think you are going too far here;
I want to vomit when I see all the gold in the Vatican, when I see how it operates more like a corporation than a community, etc. But Dawkins takes it to another level where all religion is unilaterally attacked.
Has Dawkins called for any other religious leaders to be arrested? Or just the one who has personally aided and abetted paedophiles within the ranks of his church?
But are they protesting pedophilia in general or priests who perform pedophilia?
I can only speak for myself, but what really appals me is that the Vatican has actively covered up for the paedophiles within its ranks. They have shuffled paedophiles away to new parishes. They have sent them to vulnerable communities such as those in remote parts of Alaska. There, they have offended again. Add to that the fact that they simultaneously claim ultimate moral authority.
What could be worse than raping children?
Covering up for the rapist.
At least we can have some inkling of understanding about what motivates the paedophile to commit such appalling crimes. He is fucking sick in the head. Now that's not an excuse, but at least it is an understandable motivation.
What is the reason for the cover up? Protecting their asses. These people are not sick. They are just evil. That, in my opinion, is inexcusable.
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Message 37 of 47 (555610)
04-14-2010 1:39 PM
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04-14-2010 1:27 PM


Re: A Determinative Question at the Very Root of Morality Itself
I'm speaking in generalities here. His staunch aversion towards anything religious is well documented.
That doesn't mean that he shouldn't express his opinion when asked it. Remember, Dawkins has not particularly sought this out. He was asked to support it. He was asked his opinion by a journalist. He gave his opinion. I fail to see what he has done wrong.
Many people agree with you that Dawkins is too strident in his general views and demeanour. Now I don't agree with this. He is speaking his mind and saying it as he sees it. There is room for a plurality of opinion here. If you want to argue that he is doing more harm than good, you are entitled to your view, but it's just that; a view. There is no way for us to objectively determine what effect Dawkins rhetoric has. Others see Dawkins' approach as being spot on. It's a matter of personal preference and I don't see why the preferences of others should stop Dawkins or anyone else from voicing their opinions.
I agree that these people should be arrested and I agree that they should be held accountable.
Well then you agree with Dawkins. You appear to be criticising him for agreeing with you.
I was just commenting that Dawkins' choice of coverage is indicative of his hatred for all things religious.
What do you mean "choice of coverage"? Dawkins was asked his opinion. He's not forcing it down anybody's throat.
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Granny Magda
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Message 40 of 47 (555673)
04-14-2010 8:57 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by hooah212002
04-14-2010 12:37 PM


Re: A Determinative Question at the Very Root of Morality Itself
Hi hooah,
No. Fags, are evil. These men are cursed by fags and the homosexuality. The devil made them do it.
Oh no. Hadn't you heard? It's a Zionist conspiracy.
quote:
A retired Italian bishop has provoked fury by reportedly suggesting that Zionists are behind the current storm of accusations over clerical sex abuse shaking the Vatican and the Catholic Church.
Monsignor Giacomo Babini, the Bishop Emeritus of Grossetto, was quoted by the Italian Roman Catholic website Pontifex as saying he believed a Zionist attack was behind the criticism of the Pope, given that it was powerful and refined in nature.
Bishop Babini denied he had made any anti-Semitic remarks. He was backed by the Italian Bishops Conference (CEI), which issued a declaration by Bishop Babini in which he said: Statements I have never made about our Jewish brothers have been attributed to me.
However, Bruno Volpe, who interviewed Monsignor Babini for Pontifex, confirmed that the bishop had made the statement, which was reported widely in the Italian press today. Pontifex threatened to release the audio tape of the interview as proof.
The Times & The Sunday Times
Perhaps they used their magic Jew powers to force all those poor priests to molest children.
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