Easy proof for Inteligent Design

This is a very good point.If necessary truths are dependent on something, then they are not necessary in themselves. 'Dependent' means that the absence of something - in this case mind- makes a difference for things that depend on it. This refutes the necessity of MrQ's necessary truths, since he defines them as being dependent on a conscious mind.In a universe with only a cube and a sphere the question of how many things there are can neither be asked nor answered, unless the cube is talking to the sphere.

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"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.

Not necessarily.Cube: "How many things are there in the universe?"
Sphere (puzzled): "Beats me."

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"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.

That's not what MrQ implies. He contends that a mind came before matter, not necessarily the human mind. The topic title, after all, is Easy proof for Intelligent Design.Edited by Parasomnium, : No reason given.

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"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.