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Can anything exist for an infinite time or outside of time?

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DC85
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04-16-2010 10:00 PM 		Reply to: Message 9 by Flyer75
04-16-2010 6:18 PM

no, I don't think anything can exist outside of time, except God
why is God immune to the "logic"?
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04-17-2010 9:02 PM 		Reply to: Message 16 by Buzsaw
04-17-2010 3:14 PM

had to magically become to exist
What is the origin of magic? It seems to me this is a major flaw in theist logic. They insist energy and matter had to have an origin but have no problem with God and magic always existing....
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or eternally existed in some form.
Why does either have to be true? Do you understand the nature of the Universe? What does it mean to exist without or outside of time?
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04-17-2010 11:08 PM 		Reply to: Message 21 by Buzsaw
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Re: Eternal vs Magical
As far as I know buzz Science has not made either claim... which is why I questioned you. We don't know the nature of the Universe so how could we make such bold assumptions? I'm not convinced the Universe has a beginning or is eternal. Why does either have to be true? Why not both? why not neither?
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04-18-2010 11:35 AM 		Reply to: Message 25 by Buzsaw
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Re: Eternal vs Magical
How can something be both eternal and temporal?
Why not? Why do you assume time is liner? We perceive time as in this way but that doesn't mean it is this way. We can also only sense 4 dimensions but we suspect at least 10.
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Why can't the Universe's future also be it's past? Why not a Multiverse? Why not both of these?
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I don't understand why everyone assumes eternal or a beginning are the only two options.
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