Think about this oni:
Ok...
All the greatest scientists believed in God.
Lets correct this a bit, since I am thinking about it upon your request for me to do so.
It should read:
Most of the greatest scientist believed in a god
concept.
Since there have been great scientist from all sorts of religious background. Hindu, Buddist, Muslim, Jewish, etc.
See what scientists today do not understand is the REASON.
I'll assume that you feel
you do understand why, yet the greatest minds of today don't understand why?
You can see why I'm reluctant to believe you, right?
You like DeGrasse, lets take him for example. Do you feel you know more than him about the religious beliefs of Newton? If so, I would be curious as to what you're using as evidence to prove that.
many choose to believe that its because they reached a limit.
Well, no, that's just plain wrong. It's not a choice, that's just what the evidence points to. Newton discovered the equations for gravity and the laws of motion. But he couldn't understand what gravity was or where gravity came from.
As his famous quote goes:
quote:
"Gravity explains the motions of the planets, but it cannot explain who set the planets in motion. God governs all things and knows all that is or can be done."
But along comes Einstein and changes everyone's understanding of physics with his new field equations. He explains what Newton could not explain, and by doing so, Einstein removed god from the equation. Not by choice, he didn't
choose to remove god. The equation simply didn't require magic anymore. The questions that Newton had were answered.
This is how god was removed from practically every field of science. By simply answering the question the scientist before you couldn't answer and had to infer an intelligent designer.
Einstein for instance believed in God, and after life, because " energy cannot be created or destroyed, but changed from form to form.
I don't know where you got that from but he most certainly did not.
Sourcequote:
In a 1954 letter, [Einstein] wrote, "I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly.
In a letter to philosopher Erik Gutkind, Einstein remarked, "The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weakness, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still purely primitive, legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."
Einstein had previously explored this belief that man could not understand the nature of God when he gave an interview to Time Magazine explaining:
I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God.
Albert Einstein
Now, show me your evidence to support the claim that he did.
The truth is, they did not have access to the data we have today, or they would have added a lot more.
My friend, it's the data of today that has removed god from the equation. That doesn't mean that today's scientist don't believe in god, on the contrary, many/most of them do.
The difference is, today when a scientist approaches a question about a phenomenon that he/she may not have all the answers to, they don't stop looking for answers and say, "god-did-it." Instead, they keep doing science. Eventually the answers come, and in no case, ever, ever...ever...has the answer been god-did-it. They always find a natural cause.
In fact, show me one single example where a consensus is in and god-did-it is the only possible answer to a question.
They did not choose their beliefs because they were dumb. they chose to believe because they were smart.
They were raised in societies where the had to believe in god. Remember Galileo and his problems with the church? Or Keplers problems with the church? Or Darwins? Newtons? Copernicus? Shall I keep going?
They believed in a god, their version, not the Abrahamic version. This was their issue most of the time with the churches. It wasn't that they didn't believe in a higher power, the church called them heretics because they believed in intelligent design and not in the god of the Bible.
- Oni
Edited by onifre, : No reason given.