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anglagard
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Message 1116 of 1273 (548558)
02-28-2010 5:57 AM


What Has ID Done for Me?
This may be a bit OT but i feel it is an important question to ask.
Recently to my great embarassment, I learned of Norman Borlaug's demise. Of course I did not learn that through my usual sources - Google News, the NYT, or BBC News. I found out from Cracked.com.
Now for those few here, but evidently many elsewhere, Norman Borlaug is famous because through his hybridization of various food crops during the 60's he saved between one and two billion lives.
That number, even at the lowest estimate, is far larger than all the people Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Timur, Genghis Khan, Attila the Hun, and Torquemada along with many others managed to kill.
As it is clear, there is no great amount of publicity for saving lives, only for shortening them.
Well, it is easy to understand that bad news crowds out good, so despite such mainstream media bias, I offer the ID and YEC supporters their chance, right here, right now.
Given that truth I was wondering - How many lives has the concept of Intelligent Design or Young Earth Creationism saved or even financially improved? After all, ID has been around since the 80's and hardcore YECism since 1961. Isn't it time we should be seeing some results?
I mean, crap, just on Google right now I'm reading about some ceramic box that can produce electricity at less cost and environmental impact than previous technologies.
So what is the deal with ID and YEC? Can you give the world something positive or is it just like Juche, the official religion of North Korea, which incidentally and evidently has something against generating electricity.
Isn't it time to put up or shut up, after all us supporters of science seem to come up with something better every day while you........
Please chime in should you have something to crow about.
Edited by anglagard, : add n to give for the sake of the mighty, yet fallible, English language
Edited by anglagard, : add 'great amount of' before 'publicity' for honest accuracy
Edited by anglagard, : Add connecting paragraph to make more sense.
Edited by anglagard, : that aforementioned paragraph needed some more tweaking

The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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anglagard
Member (Idle past 950 days)
Posts: 2339
From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
Joined: 03-18-2006


Message 1121 of 1273 (548856)
03-02-2010 1:54 AM
Reply to: Message 1118 by slevesque
03-01-2010 3:19 PM


Re: What Has ID Done for Me?
slevesque writes:
I'm a supporter of science too.
If you believe in some global flood from 4350 BCE, then you do not support any normal understanding of the sciences of physics, chemistry, geology, biology, or anthropology.
What have you done for me lately ?
Well, just last week I helped a few nursing students find reliable sources of information so they don't accidentally kill someone through ignorance of, what us academics call a normal understanding of chemistry and biology.
Someday, one of those nurses may be involved in healing your illness.
Edited by anglagard, : clarity

The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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