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Author Topic:   What exactly is ID?
MikeDeich
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Message 816 of 1273 (544200)
01-24-2010 5:26 PM
Reply to: Message 814 by Admin
01-24-2010 3:36 PM


Re: To Evolutionists
Smooth Operator writes:
Everyone who knows anything about the history of the modern ID movement knows this is not true. The majority of ID proponents are Christians, so what? The majority of evolutionists are atheists, again so what? I could also call modern evolutionary theory a political atheist movement.
Thanks for pointing that out Admin. I am a 100% evolutionist & I am not atheist. In fact the percentage of atheist is outweighed by that of evolutionists. It may be hard to determine the exact percentage of atheists in the world...I have done research before, but do not remember all details. In any case various studies have found differing percentages amongst all the countries in the world. While some european countries....France & Sweden....have a higher % of atheism.....The USA in contrast has fairly low amount of Atheists in comparison. The USA percentage of atheists is like 5-10% I believe. If you believe that only 5-10% of the USA believes in evolution, you would be mistaken....it is at least half. Therefore the majority of evolutionists are not atheists. Evolution is not based in atheist ideology, just mountains of empirical data.

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MikeDeich
Junior Member (Idle past 4672 days)
Posts: 24
From: Rosario, Argentina
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Message 931 of 1273 (544695)
01-27-2010 10:09 PM
Reply to: Message 921 by Smooth Operator
01-27-2010 6:49 PM


Re: funny thing happened on the way to nirvana ...
A conspiracy can be made in such a way that it's testable and acceptable and confirmable by those who are no in on the conspiracy. Which makes the conspiracy even better. I want you to PROVE to me that evolution is no an atheistic conspiracy. How do I know that evolution is not just one giant Piltdown man?
Does it really make no difference to you that most people who believe in Evolution are NOT atheists? That plenty of researched evidence has been done by Non-atheists & religious alike? I already brought this up in another post, this fact alone proves TO ME at least that there is no atheist conspiracy....but maybe they have mind control devices. Only you can decide whether or not to accept or reject what evidence is right in front of you. You demand that we all PROVE there is no atheist conspiracy, or PROVE that the Rosetta stone was not written with lasers, but we see you PROVING nothing. Could you maybe atleast explain WHY you think evolution is an atheist conspiracy, & feel free to explain (or rather speculate) WHY there are others of faith that accept it as well? That would be a start, thanks. If the information that is available isn't enough to prove anything to you, fine. But that certainly doesn't prove whatever it is you're arguing.

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MikeDeich
Junior Member (Idle past 4672 days)
Posts: 24
From: Rosario, Argentina
Joined: 10-31-2009


Message 949 of 1273 (544855)
01-28-2010 6:55 PM
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01-28-2010 4:20 PM


Re: funny thing happened on the way to nirvana ...
My argument was actually irony. You've just wasted your time writing that post.
Your argument was irony? So you're implying that because many evolutionists see ID as a product of creationists, there is an atheist conspiracy causing ToE, without actually believing such a conspiracy exists? People in this forum have posted how creationism was/is the driving force for ID. You can define creationism or ID anyway you please, evolution has only one definition. Maybe I missed the post where you made this profound correlation. You could be a little less vague in all your posts. I have to figure out what you're talking about from a single sentence? You could save us all the time of writing such short posts by explaining yourself better than responses like...I was being ironic you're an idiot for wasting your time! , type bullshit.

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MikeDeich
Junior Member (Idle past 4672 days)
Posts: 24
From: Rosario, Argentina
Joined: 10-31-2009


Message 962 of 1273 (545119)
02-01-2010 9:20 AM
Reply to: Message 957 by Smooth Operator
01-31-2010 8:59 PM


Re: funny thing happened on the way to nirvana ...
Lol, Congrats, you got the most posts! You've made all those posts & made nothing clear except your own ignorance. Whose wasting their time? The admin is right this thread is going nowhere.

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