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Author Topic:   Creationist problems with radiocarbon dating
Coragyps
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Message 24 of 194 (556544)
04-20-2010 10:17 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by kbertsche
04-20-2010 1:07 AM


Re: RATE
I'm not familiar with this study. However, I suspect that he assumed too much "uniformity", assuming things are constant which we know are not.

I'll bet an Abita Amber that this "study" is the one that includes the sodium content of the oceans as indicative of a "young earth." The same data that was mined by Morris (or his source) also contains the aluminum content of the oceans, which "proves" that the oceans are about 110 years old. And think about that a minute: do you know even a single sailor that was around in the days of the Cutty Sark? See! That's evidence that Creation was in about 1890!


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Message 44 of 194 (556672)
04-20-2010 5:23 PM
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04-20-2010 3:19 PM


equivalent to apparent 14C ages of between 36,400±350 and 48,710±930 years for the ammonites, and between 32,780±230 and 42,390±510 years for the wood.

true ages are consistent with their burial during the Genesis Flood only about 4,300 years ago

So 4300 = 43,000 if you squint hard enough.

These people really are pretty funny. I wish they didn't control the State Board of Education here in Texas, though.


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Message 72 of 194 (557195)
04-23-2010 3:23 PM
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04-23-2010 1:27 PM


Re: Guess???
The truth is there are so many assumptions and variables these dating methods are based on the only scientifically honest answer is that they are an estimate/guess.

Bullshit, and of poor quality, besides.

Go here:
http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&t=6288

Read, and then tell me about "guesses"

Edited by Coragyps, : it ate my first post


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Message 78 of 194 (557212)
04-23-2010 8:13 PM
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04-23-2010 6:57 PM


is C14 dating only good for geological samples or also for biological samples,...

Carbon-14 is primarily for biological samples, though it's also good for stalagmites sometimes. What 14C dating measures is essentially the amount of carbon-14 that was in the air, as carbon dioxide, at some past time. The carbon dioxide got pulled out of the air by a plant (or alga) or by reacting with calcium and water to make limestone, so that we now have something solid to date.

And twigs are more common than stalagmites, so they get used more often.


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