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NoNukes Inactive Member |
You could not be more wrong. Most of the participants here really enjoy debating this stuff. Unfortunately, holding a conversation with you is entirely too difficult to be enjoyable. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16112 Joined: |
An elegant demonstration, but perhaps that's because it produced really execrable Russian as the intermediate step.
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morningstar2008 Member (Idle past 2738 days) Posts: 43 From: Åêàòåðèíáóðã Joined: |
Tell me what you do it would be like. I will follow your advice. Once that is profitable? I came here with a suitcase full of his proposals. I want to give them away. The fact that this burden will not burn my shoulders. In the house, for some reason, I say the same thing. I thought that foreign friends will be smarter. Why would you make a problem out of the blue? I do not take it as a point?
Tell me what you do it would be like. I will follow your advice. Once that is profitable? I came here with a suitcase full of his proposals. I want to give them away. The fact that this burden will not burn my shoulders. In the house, for some reason I could say the same thing. I thought that foreign friends will be smarter. Why would you make a problem out of the blue? I do not take it as a point?
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Percy Member Posts: 19906 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 8.2 |
It would be an interesting exercise to find a Russian discussion board and see if one could carry on a passable discussion using Google translate.
--Percy
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Coyote Member (Idle past 859 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
You need to tell us clearly why you think radiocarbon dating is inaccurate.
Several of us know quite a bit about the subject. I have submitted about 600 samples, and have lectured and written on the subject. In fact, I just received the results of a sample today. Keep it simple, and in English. Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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morningstar2008 Member (Idle past 2738 days) Posts: 43 From: Åêàòåðèíáóðã Joined: |
Guys read the original. He's under my every post. That's all I can offer. And get out of my skin to turn it inside out and then again to get into it. I already powerless to do. You probably do not like the fact that I run into radiocarbon dating, which you so ardently support it. But if this method did not create such a global problem. And I said that almost all tied dating world science. And one wrong decision can distort the entire chain.
Guys read the original. I have it under every post. This is all that I can offer. And get out of my skin turn it inside out and log back into it. I was powerless. You probably do not like the fact that I run in radiocarbon dating, which you so ardently support it. But if this method does not create a global problem. And I said, almost all connected dating world science. And one wrong decision can distort the entire chain.
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morningstar2008 Member (Idle past 2738 days) Posts: 43 From: Åêàòåðèíáóðã Joined: |
You need to tell us clearly why you think radiocarbon dating is inaccurate.
Several of us know quite a bit about the subject. I have submitted about 600 samples, and have lectured and written on the subject. In fact, I just received the results of a sample today. Keep it simple, and in English. Edited by morningstar2008, : No reason given.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 158 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Hi morningstar2008,
I'm going back to basics here to possibly find some resolution. 14C Calibration and Correlations quote: The graph shows the decay for 14C. The reason that 14C dating can only be used up to 50,000 years ago is because at that age the amount of 14C left to measure becomes to small.
easier to read with comma delimiters: 20,000,000,000 ... or say 20 billion or 20x10^9 or 20e+9.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 859 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Your answer has nothing to do with radiocarbon dating.
Try again with more science and less nonsense. Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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morningstar2008 Member (Idle past 2738 days) Posts: 43 From: Åêàòåðèíáóðã Joined: |
easier to read with comma delimiters: 20,000,000,000 ... or say 20 billion or 20x10^9 or 20e+9.
RAZD Thanks for the future necessarily uchtu.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
What event are we describing using a date result of 50 billion years, or even 20 billion years? Aren't those values greater than the current age of the entire universe? (ducking head before you know who shows up...)
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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morningstar2008 Member (Idle past 2738 days) Posts: 43 From: Åêàòåðèíáóðã Joined: |
Your answer has nothing to do with radiocarbon dating.
Try again with more science and less nonsense. _____________________________________ Well, I warned you a chur susceptible children and adolescents from the screens clean. You did not listen to my advice. You just can not imagine that all that you have done before products are actually nonsense. If you want obidtes me. That should calm you. But if you happen to suddenly your imagination and try to imagine. Chalk limestone okremnelizatsii passed the stage. In addition, it is the stage of uranium dating younger sohraneniya.Peschanik in plain bonded sand with grains of sand. Something you've probably heard about the stone roads. This track from carts or cars. Does not matter. Our Russia is still possible to meet such a miracle. But why do not they turn to stone or can not understand. This would be for Russia was a gift for all the tracks, when the road suddenly turned to stone relsy.Rul, in this case, the car will be more than attributes of Russian equipment. However, a miracle happens. And the ruts become deeper, and the cars they are stuck in the old way. http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/...702.1/0_8010d_d20fedd5_XXL.jpg
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morningstar2008 Member (Idle past 2738 days) Posts: 43 From: Åêàòåðèíáóðã Joined: |
What event are we describing using a date result of 50 billion years, or even 20 billion years? Aren't those values greater than the current age of the entire universe? (ducking head before you know who shows up...)
_____________________________________ If you want me to lay down on the tracks, as it promised to show our former President Boris Yeltsin, then I'm ready to get back on track. Do you think that this is the age of the universe? Then you are wildly mistaken. Of course, it's hard to believe, but I went through the whole chain and the beginning of the universe and discovered. It is eternal. And my rightness figures lie precisely in the previous text. Earth region of space standards are not that big, but it contains all the background. Not only for its development, and it can be like a mirror to see the history of the universe. And the fact that the universe is infinite, and the fact that it is eternal in one.
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morningstar2008 Member (Idle past 2738 days) Posts: 43 From: Åêàòåðèíáóðã Joined: |
The currently accepted ages of the stars among astronomers are millions to billions of years old. Among creationists, however, the creation of the universe, which include the stars, only happened 6 thousand years ago.
Is the universe billions and billions of years old or is it only 6 thousand years old as is claimed by biblical creationists? Do current dating techniques of these stars used by astronomers accurately portray their real ages? These kinds of questions abound at EvC Forum. Peruse our Most Recent Topics page, or Search the Forums for an interesting topic. You can propose your own new topic at our Proposed New Topics page. __________________________________ I found these lines in the resource http://www.evcforum.net/ They look familiar to anyone who visits this forum. But now that the refusal to enter into a conflict with the program kreatsianistskoy own program modern science is under attack by alternative researchers. Will they come into contact with new facts or equivalent kriotsionistskoy will continue its overgrown and more faith that the universe in time has its limits. I think that the fight against the creationists is killing a lot of time in the modern scientist. And this fight is stopped scientific progress. I think it's time to wake up from the illusion and move forward. Morningstar2008
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morningstar2008 Member (Idle past 2738 days) Posts: 43 From: Åêàòåðèíáóðã Joined: |
The graph shows the decay for 14C. The reason that 14C dating can only be used up to 50,000 years ago is because at that age the amount of 14C left to measure becomes to small.
______________________________ It is my understanding that during the approach to the measurement of the curve of infinity is absurd. Well, that just proves that only a ruler to measure the radiocarbon dating does not make sense. I understand you correctly? I think Mr. Kayot it will be interesting. Edited by morningstar2008, : No reason given.
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