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Author Topic:   Are The Historical Respective Roles Of The Genders Relevant Today?
Son
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Message 3 of 116 (557489)
04-26-2010 8:46 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
04-25-2010 8:39 PM


Well, first off, I would like you to explicite the role women should have (in a general way). I think it would let the discussion be more focused. You should also explain what do you mean by working, does it mean their culture survived? That their economy was better off? Their people (men and women) happier?
As for the argument so far, that something worked before doesn't mean it will work in a changing world. Take Poland against Germany, their horses didn't work very well to counter tanks despite the fact that they had used cavalry before with sucess.
We also didn't use computers before without much problems so why use them now? Why use modern medecine? Electricity? etc.... If your argument was valid, without the use of all those things, we would be better off, right?

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Son
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Message 16 of 116 (557523)
04-26-2010 12:28 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Buzsaw
04-26-2010 11:24 AM


Re: Where we started
You are saying the Bible system is better, but you haven't shown why we should believe you or even what do you mean by better. I've shown you that the nordic countries that respected parity better were better off economicaly. Why is that so if women are not suited to leadership roles? Shouldn't they be poorer? Also what exactly should be women's role in society?

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Son
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Message 48 of 116 (557647)
04-27-2010 12:18 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by Buzsaw
04-27-2010 10:22 AM


Re: Another For The Record
Sure, but then, what is supposed to be the women's role? You still didn't say explicitely, and how is it better than the current system? You haven't shown it, you didn't even say what criteria you used in order to determine which system is better. ( the people's welfare? the country's economy?) And what evidence do you have for your position? (like statistics, examples are not enough by themselves)

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Son
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Message 104 of 116 (558576)
05-02-2010 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by Buzsaw
05-01-2010 9:08 PM


Re: Yet Another Strawman
Well, if the husband take the final decision in everything and doesn't want to divorce, will the wife be allowed to divorce? Wasn't it this way in "biblical times" ? You said it should be exactly like in old times, right?

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