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Author Topic:   Noah's ark found ?!?
PsychMJC
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Message 18 of 88 (557743)
04-27-2010 7:01 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Flyer75
04-27-2010 6:48 PM


Think you're wrong on this one..
There's enough evidence out there (no, I'm not going into that on this thread) to validate Christianity that the find of Noah's Ark won't or shouldn't persuade someone to all of a sudden say, "wow, just the evidence I was looking for, I'll now become a Bible believing Christian"
It would certainly help to persuade me. I bet it would bring thousands back to the church. Which is why they keep throwing the claim out there, to get those back who don't think for themselves.
I don't see any of this evidence you claim. Lots of people don't. It seems easier for you to just say "Those people don't believe because they don't want to" than it is to believe when we say "No, I don't see the evidence". And I am talking EVIDENCE. That wood would have to be tested and examined by many sources, not one that loses the sample the next day. The whole area would have to be excavated. Is it just a small wood shack or is it actually the size it should be? I am sure there would be lots of evidence around, I don't think the boat landed and everyone ran every direction willy-nilly.
You are right tho, this won't amount to a hill of beans.

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PsychMJC
Member (Idle past 1324 days)
Posts: 36
From: Modesto, California
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Message 66 of 88 (558063)
04-29-2010 4:09 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by Hyroglyphx
04-29-2010 11:36 AM


Re: Think you're wrong on this one..
What that doesn't mean is that this confirms God, nor does it confirm that every animal on the planet was housed on an ark, nor does it prove that it actually is the Ark described in the bible, or anything else
Perhaps reading comprehension isn't your best suit. Let's try dealing with what I wrote shall we?
I said it would help to persuade me, not prove the existence of God or confirm the Bibles accuracy. Obviously the shoddy archeological work done so far does nothing to prove that it is the actual Ark. What I was RESPONDING to was the question posed by slevesque. IF this is what they SAY it is (which is the BIBLICAL ARK, not some wooden boat that survived a flood), what are the implications. Now you want to know what the implications are if it ISN'T what they say it is, only something LIKE what they say it is? I didn't know I was responding to that question as well.
A huge flood happened. It did.
Oh gee thanks, I didn't know that.
What likely could have happened is that after the flood occured (which was localized and not global) is that a bunch of people saw a large ship resting on the mountain. People in that area then wrote about it (look in Sumerian lore) and it spread the word. Through word of mouth the story then synthesized all over the Middle East, Asia Minor, and the Mediteranean. They each put their own little spin on it.
I don't believe the Ark actually existed. If you want to start a thread for the two of us to toss ideas back and forth about HOW the Ark myth was created, go ahead. I have some ideas and it might be interesting. It would have nothing to do with the OP however.
So, even if it is the ark, it doesn't mean that the stories about the The Ark are necessarily true. Think about it.
Think about what? The Ark is, as far as I have been able to find, a ship that should not nor could not ACTUALLY function. Now you are changing the scenario from THE Ark to just some boat. Here I thought the question in the OP was about the ACTUAL ARK.

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PsychMJC
Member (Idle past 1324 days)
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Message 68 of 88 (558066)
04-29-2010 4:42 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by Hyroglyphx
04-29-2010 2:21 PM


Re: Think you're wrong on this one..
The bible is an historical document that has proven a lot of itself true. I don't care how many foam-at-the-mouth atheists say otherwise. That being said, not all of it is true.
You know a lot of foam-at-the-mouth atheists that think everything in the Bible is false? I don't really know ANY. Not to say that they don't exist, they are just morons. In fact, of all the vocal atheists I've ever read or read about, I can't think of ONE that says that EVERYTHING in the Bible is fiction, none based on fact.
But why would that matter? Isn't lots of fiction is based on reality? Real places. Actual people. We don't think that just because the main character in Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter was an actual person then so too must vampires be real. That doesn't make it a "historical document", it makes it fiction based on reality. Nothing special about that. Unless you want "historical document" to mean any document that has some touch of reality to it.
What I like best about this response is that you don't go babbling on about real arks and fake arks and fishing boats in mountains when Flyer75 assumes basically the same thing I did. You let his reaction to the OP be based on, *GASP* the OP! Not some goofy version of as you did when responding to me.

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