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Author Topic:   Should we teach both evolution and religion in school?
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Message 164 of 2059 (659935)
04-19-2012 5:18 PM
Reply to: Message 162 by Larni
04-19-2012 9:09 AM


I have to say the site is bloody funny.

Edited by Catholic Scientist, : No reason given.


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Message 186 of 2059 (728883)
06-04-2014 1:11 AM
Reply to: Message 184 by AZPaul3
06-02-2014 2:26 AM


Re: School is for Facts
I, personally, do not see any reason for having any religious classes in school.

Maybe I'm not realizing what you mean by a "religion" class, but I have a one-word rebuttal for you: Anthropology.

I mean, you did italicize "any".


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Message 189 of 2059 (728920)
06-04-2014 12:28 PM
Reply to: Message 188 by AZPaul3
06-04-2014 3:23 AM


Re: School is for Facts
I'm just bouncing off your post, but I just noticed the subtitle.

School is for Facts

I have to object to that one.

I remember reading some stupid poetry in English class and the teacher is all: "What does it mean to you?" And I'm all: "I don't know, something a frog and a bug and a flower, its pretty dumb." And she goes: "No, it metaphorical, there's a deeper meaning there, what is it?" Again i go: "Beats the hell out of me, all I see them talking about is plants and animals."

"Can't I go back to the chemistry lab? I prefer to learn about facts, mam."

"Fine, yes I'll go to the principal's office."


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Message 191 of 2059 (729097)
06-05-2014 4:20 PM
Reply to: Message 190 by AZPaul3
06-05-2014 3:55 PM


Re: School is for Facts
So my point remains since the "fact" is, CS, you went to the wrong school.

I only had two options, and the Catholic high school was waaay better than the public option.


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Message 198 of 2059 (733357)
07-16-2014 2:58 PM
Reply to: Message 193 by mram10
07-16-2014 12:11 PM


Teaching evolution is, in my opinion, teaching religion.

I've taken both religion and evolution classes, they are not the same.

Evolution classes focus on physical evidence, my religion classes focused on The Bible.

1. You are a chemical/biological accident. Upon death you will decompose and cease to exist as an individual.

That was never taught in any evolution class I have taken.

2. You are a created for a purpose, held accountable for everything you do, etc.

Unless you accept Jesus in your heart on your deathbed and then you're accountable for nothing.


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Message 229 of 2059 (733569)
07-18-2014 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 227 by Diomedes
07-18-2014 11:23 AM


how precisely can they claim with all certainty that Genesis and The Flood happened as absolute facts if they were not there to see it?

God was there and he saw it, and then he told the authors what to write.


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Message 277 of 2059 (737928)
10-02-2014 10:04 AM
Reply to: Message 276 by jar
10-02-2014 9:10 AM


Why are you being such a dick?

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Message 291 of 2059 (738048)
10-04-2014 12:59 PM
Reply to: Message 290 by djufo
10-04-2014 12:42 PM


As far as I know if I walk in the middle of a sunny day for about an hour under the sun, my skin gets literally fried. Adaptation? a process of mutiple mutations to adapt to the environment producing evolution? our, or better said your "cousins" have hair on their bodies for that purpose. Specially more on their backs. well, we have some hair too but wait a second. More hair on out chest?? 2+2....

The answer to your question doesn't really pertain to the topic of this thread, so if you want to debate it, then let's not do it here.

But a better evolutionary explanation might have to do with sexual selection pressuring us towards neoteny, rather than some kind of environmental adaptation.

Added by edit:

Here ya go, this might be a better thread for this:

http://www.evcforum.net/dm.php?control=msg&t=9071

Edited by Cat Sci, : No reason given.


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Message 377 of 2059 (740237)
11-03-2014 10:00 AM
Reply to: Message 375 by Colbard
11-03-2014 4:07 AM


Learning is not an adventure if someone is force feeding.
True education should be about training the mind to be free and to think, to discover and to enjoy.

Considered and rejected.

Unfortunately, we have a civilization to run here. We cannot afford to have our future citizens be ignorant of basic educational requirements, despite the fact that our current system prevents them from obtaining a "True" education.

Observe and make your own conclusions.

Sorry, that'll ruin the economy. We need an educated workforce.

Not a bunch of ignorant freeloaders.


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Message 388 of 2059 (740447)
11-05-2014 9:15 AM
Reply to: Message 383 by Colbard
11-05-2014 6:35 AM


How young are you?

Teenager?


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Message 395 of 2059 (740737)
11-07-2014 9:53 AM
Reply to: Message 393 by Colbard
11-07-2014 6:40 AM


I think that in chemistry for example, we could demonstrate most of it, and I am fairly certain that if the conclusions we have today - accumulated by much time and effort, are correct as I believe, then the students cannot help to make the same conclusions by observing.

How do you demonstrate and observe sp3 hybridization or van der Waals force?

That shit's pretty abstract...

Man up: You just don't like evolution because of its implications to your religion. This has nothing to do with how children are educated.

But when it comes to defining something which is not demonstrable like the evolution theory,

Chemistry gets like that too.

and leave it up to the students to work out whether it was millions of years or something which happens in our world on a generational basis, and remarkably quickly.

Why though? Just because you don't like evolution? That's retarded.


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Message 487 of 2059 (741476)
11-12-2014 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 486 by Faith
11-12-2014 3:24 PM


Re: Coyotes call
Fossils are far older than 4300 years ago. Think millions of years and older.

Nope, since that contradicts the Creator God's revelation it is wrong and needs to be rethought.

Wrong, since what you think is the Creator God's revelation does not match up with reality, then what you think is the Creator God's revelation is wrong and needs to be rethought.


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Message 492 of 2059 (741489)
11-12-2014 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 489 by Faith
11-12-2014 4:49 PM


Re: Coyotes call
Well then, we all already know what you are going to say on every topic and there's really no reason for you post here.

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Message 532 of 2059 (741616)
11-13-2014 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 531 by Faith
11-13-2014 1:05 PM


Re: Coyotes call
but thousands of theologians and millions of believers for thousands of years saying it is something else.

Are you talking about the Earth being flat and the sun revolving around it?


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Message 534 of 2059 (741620)
11-13-2014 1:19 PM
Reply to: Message 533 by Faith
11-13-2014 1:16 PM


Re: Coyotes call
It? I was talking about all those people saying those things.

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