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Author Topic:   Should we teach both evolution and religion in school?
deerbreh
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Message 389 of 2059 (740452)
11-05-2014 10:57 AM


Teach TOE in Science Class, Religion in Social Studies Class
Yes we should teach both in their proper disciplines.

Evolution is science so we teach it in science class.
Religion is social studies, so we teach it in social studies class.


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Message 391 of 2059 (740459)
11-05-2014 11:24 AM
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11-05-2014 11:15 AM


Re: Teach TOE in Science Class, Religion in Social Studies Class
When I say "Religion" I mean the topic of Religion, not teaching religious dogma as truth. You can't teach about the Pilgrims, for example, without talking about their religion as a motivation for why they did what. To explain the Crusades you have to talk about religion, what people believed, and how it motivated them. That isn't a course in Comparative Religions (which would be ok to teach also), rather it is teaching about the role of religion in history.

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Message 675 of 2059 (742924)
11-25-2014 1:54 PM
Reply to: Message 636 by Colbard
11-22-2014 10:00 AM


Re: Belief in science
Evolution theory has 'proven evidence' to some people but not half of America, which have evidence against it. So the evidence depends on a persons view or opinion,

Actually, no. Scientific evidence is not subject to majority rule. It stands or falls according to scientific standards of evidence - experimental design, statistical significance, and peer review. No room for voting or personal opinion there.


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Message 676 of 2059 (742926)
11-25-2014 2:15 PM
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11-22-2014 8:47 PM


Re: Belief in science
why must evolution and ID be totally separate? Why can evolution by DNA code changes, not be an engineered process?

It is a good question, if a bit naive. The short answer is, because the evidence is completely contrary to an intelligent designer. In short, the presence of derived characters which serve a different function from the ancestral characters but often not the most efficient design for that character. The question is, if one is intelligently directing evolution, why not do the most efficient design based on the building blocks available? No, the evidence overwhelmingly supports that it it is natural selection which does the directing, not God.

If you have the answer, you are a fool,

If you are a believer, I would be a bit careful with that one. See Matthew 5:22.


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Message 678 of 2059 (742931)
11-25-2014 2:39 PM
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11-25-2014 2:18 PM


No compromises. The Constitution is clear. The state cannot establish a religion. Creation dogma is a religion. The only way it can be taught in a state run school is in a course about religion - and then one would have to present all of the major creation myths, not just the Hebrew one. Would actually make an interesting class.

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Message 696 of 2059 (742996)
11-26-2014 8:44 AM
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11-25-2014 11:16 PM


True, evolution is also a religion, the ancient religion of Baal worship, which is essentially humanism, the ideas of humanity above any revelation or God.

Horse manure. You are in it way over your head. I didn't know home schooling with unqualified teachers was permitted in Australia.


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Message 697 of 2059 (742997)
11-26-2014 8:54 AM
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11-25-2014 11:44 PM


Re: Belief in science
This post is seriously off topic for this discussion or any discussion in a Science forum.

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