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Author Topic:   Should we teach both evolution and religion in school?
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Message 27 of 2073 (573404)
08-11-2010 9:37 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by archaeologist
08-11-2010 8:41 AM


archaeologist writes:
i will only say that i am well educated.
Sorry to break the news, but ignorance is oozing out of all of your posts.
archaeologist writes:
i can teach evolution but ...
No, you can't. You have clearly demonstrated a complete cluelessness about evolution.

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Message 53 of 2073 (573544)
08-11-2010 8:41 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by archaeologist
08-11-2010 6:47 PM


archaeologist writes:
christians do not need predictions, we already know what is going to happen in the future. science has proven over andover that it cannot predict the future (i.e. weather forecasts) and it has a hard time even predicting the past.
I am trying to picture archaeologist hammering away meaninglessly on his keyboard.
Sorry, it doesn't make sense. Either archaeologist is totally, hopelessly insane, or he is predicting that what he types will be transmitted over the internet and appear in a post at evcforum.
I think it's obvious that archaeologist does not have a clue as to what "prediction" means.

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Message 2027 of 2073 (889638)
12-09-2021 11:10 PM
Reply to: Message 2026 by EWolf
12-09-2021 10:04 PM


However, that does not negate Biblical scripture (which I yet boldly speak for) that sternly warns against offending the "little ones (Matthew 18:6)" by keeping “religion” (Jesus, that is) away from our children in Education or anywhere.
You are reading a lot into that verse, that isn't actually there. Just two verses early, Jesus talks about humility. But here you are making demands, and that does not seem at all humble.
Nobody is preventing parents from introducing their children to religion.
Such is part of Karl Marx’s vision for the coming generation.
Nobody is suggesting that Marx's view of religion be taught in the schools.
That fact that unbiblical practices such as “honor” killings, the "untouchable" status of Hindus, and female circulation are prohibited here in America because of Christian based law makes them even more free here. .
I suggest you do a google search for honor killings in the Bible. You might find that it is not at all unbiblical.
But eye witness accounts are much more powerful are they not?
People may find them more persuasive. However, it is well documented that they are unreliable.
God Himself witnessed His own work of creation.
You at most have hearsay evidence of that.
Aren’t we cautious against the danger doomsday scares that may be used to bring about tyrannical mandates because of the scare?
Those are manufactured scares. Evangelicals manufacture many scares.
What about the past fear of population explosion and the consequent one-child policy that backfired?
The one-child policy was in China. It didn't happen here.
Don't we remember the rainbow as God’s promise to Noah that the world will not be again destroyed by water (Genesis 9:13)?
That has been thoroughly debunked by physics.

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Message 2037 of 2073 (890120)
12-26-2021 12:23 AM
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12-26-2021 12:18 AM


And a merry Christmas to you, too.

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Message 2062 of 2073 (898442)
09-23-2022 10:46 PM
Reply to: Message 2061 by EWolf
09-23-2022 10:20 PM


Only one of the diametrically opposed Creation and evolutionary doctrines may be taught as fact. Although Biblical Creation truth is normally taught in church, isn’t it the responsibility of our educational institutions to support it? Truth supports truth.
Biblical Creation is mythology. Mythology is not truth.
Promotion of evolutionary doctrine as fact to the coming generation parallels the brutal efforts to eliminate everything that represents God from American culture.
That's nonsense.
Evolution is well supported science. Yes, you can argue about whether it is true, because is based on evidence and pragmatics rather than proof. However, there is no basis whatsoever for saying that evolution is doctrine.
The only people who are making "brutal efforts to eliminate everything that represents God from American culture" are the MAGA Trumpians, who mostly claim to be Christian. They are making their version of Christianity so brutally evil that many others are leaving it.
Evolution is not opposed to God. There are evolutionary scientists who are Christians.

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Message 2071 of 2073 (911637)
07-20-2023 9:38 PM
Reply to: Message 2070 by EWolf
07-20-2023 9:11 PM


EWolf in Message 2070 writes:
But what we call evolutionary scientific theory deals only with the past that cannot be repeated. What scientific law that we have today supports past evolutionary events that we may know for sure that evolutionary theory is fact as claimed?
This is a misunderstanding of science.
When scientists investigate an airplane crash, they don't have to repeat the crash to test their conclusions. When scientific methods are used to investigate a crime, they don't have to repeat the crime to test their conclusions.
Science does not depend on a repeatability of events. There are lots of non-repeatable events that science studies.
What needs to be repeatable, are the methods used within the science. That allows testing of the methodology.

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