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Message 1419 of 2058 (876938)
05-30-2020 3:13 PM
Reply to: Message 1417 by ringo
05-30-2020 1:11 PM


Re: bogus claim on the age of the earth being in the bible
ringo writes:

And we assume that the earth has always been a sphere. What's wrong with that?


But in the 1st century Jesus was able to stand on a hill top and see all corners of the world. Or maybe the earth was so massive then that it bent light along the earth’s surface. It’s your responsibility to prove me wrong.

(In other words: Why are you wasting your time with this troll and/or jutnob?)


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Message 1427 of 2058 (876953)
05-30-2020 5:39 PM
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Re: bogus claim on the age of the earth being in the bible
Daniel 4:10-11
Matthew 4:8
Revelation 1:7
Revelation 7:1
Isaiah 40:22
Jeremiah 51:16
Marmaduke 21:18

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Message 1429 of 2058 (876967)
05-31-2020 6:37 PM
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05-31-2020 1:21 PM


Re: bogus claim on the age of the earth being in the bible
"dad" is obviously doing everything he can to violating the forum rules and get suspended so he can now claim that he, and all other creationists, are being silenced on these types of discussion sites because atheists and other non-true-believers have no answers to their challenges. Typical creationist "morality".

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Message 1502 of 2058 (877724)
06-20-2020 7:37 PM
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06-20-2020 3:58 PM


Bombs away on Gish (but he's already dead)
The creationist claim about the bombadier beetle is that the chemicals it uses explode spontaneously when mixed together

I’ve always been particularly amused by this creationist claim. The “explosive” chemical the bombardier beetle uses is just good old hydrogen peroxide, i. e., H2O2. H2O2, on exposure to heat or a catalyst breaks down int H2O and O2 in a fairly exothermic reaction, i.e., it generates hot steam (along with some oxygen). H2O2 is so dangerous that you can buy it in any drug store - no explosives permit or prescription needed. It is sold in a low concentration solution (5% to 10%) to be used as a mouthwash (saliva catalyses its decomposition yielding O2, a strong foamy antiseptic) or as a germicide to splash on wounds - about $1 a pint. At that low concentration it does not become dangerous hot. Our bodies; your, mine, Duane Gish’s, and all microbes, produce small quantities of H2O2 used in a variety of biochemical reactions (well, maybe not Duane Gish’s since he’s dead). The beetle catalyses the breakdown of H2O2 using a protein, ejected at the same time as the H2O2 so they are not combined in the beetles body, that is probably used for several other reactions.

My experience with H2O2 comes from my career as a systems engineer on a major satellite program. The boosters for our satellite, when ignited (actually using an automobile spark plug), have to almost instantly pump massive amounts of fuel and oxidizer into the rocket combustion chamber and do this using a centrifugal pump driven by a turbine that itself is driven by passing high concentration H2O2 (80% to 90%) over a catalyst bed, i.e., it is effectively a steam turbine.

I have always wondered what is going through the minds of people like Henry Morris and Duane Gish (well, maybe not Gish since he’s dead) when they repeat an argument that they have already agreed is fallacious.


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