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Author Topic:   Should we teach both evolution and religion in school?
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Message 814 of 2058 (744280)
12-09-2014 2:46 PM
Reply to: Message 802 by Colbard
12-09-2014 8:51 AM


Re: To troll or not to troll?
Colbard writes:

If you are so sensitive and offended at anything that might challenge your view on evolution, what are you doing here, responding to me in such a thread? It's like watching a movie you hate isn't it?

You do seem to be mixed up. The only person here who is showing sensitivity and being all offended is you. What is being challenged is your view of evolution, because it has no resemblance to actual evolution that is studied by science.

You have it all wrong, Mate. We are responding to you here because it is entertaining to watch someone make a fool of themselves and spout nonsense about subjects that you clearly do not have a clue about.

It is like watching the movie Dumb and Dumber. We cannot believe anyone could be that stupid.

Where is the responsibility to yourself or are you are helplessly ill and waiting for an adaptation into a more complex and intelligent creature?

What the heck does this word salad mean?

It won't happen by chance - and it will never happen, no matter how much time passes.

Maybe what you mean here is "It is your own responsibility to understand what you are talking about and the only way that can happen is through study. If you want to increase your knowledge of science you have to study. It won't happen by chance. It will never happen, no matter how much time passes, if you don't study"


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Message 967 of 2058 (808434)
05-10-2017 5:43 PM
Reply to: Message 960 by Davidjay
05-10-2017 2:42 PM


Re: Separate school and state and religion
It takes some hard memory work in mathematics tables before mathematics makes more sense, rather than the dumbing down insane mathematics of today taught in our dumbing dowen schools. I repeat 3rd world countries have a better education system than the so called 1st world countries.

Judging from this and in fact, everything you write you never went to school, did you?

Taq writes:

You said students should learn the scientific method. What is the scientific method, according to you?

Are you afraid to answer Taq's question?


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 973 of 2058 (808556)
05-11-2017 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 969 by Davidjay
05-11-2017 12:56 PM


Re: Separate school and state and religion
You said students should learn the scientific method. What is the scientific method, according to you?
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Of course, Jesus created science and all science and all fields should be stdied to help enquiring minds, and via the scienctific method, we all agree on, should be taught so they can have discernment rather than them being forced into compliance with every wierd doctrine that comes along.

So, you are admitting that you don't know what the Scientific Method is?


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 993 of 2058 (827005)
01-15-2018 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 991 by creation
01-15-2018 1:32 PM


Re: Separate school and state and religion
percy writes:

The scientific method covers anything in the natural world for which evidence exists. The evidence can be for anything

Only if that distant universe or past also was IN the natural world. You need to do more than assume it was.

You need to do more than make silly assumptions. All the evidence discovered by science confirms that the Universe exists. Science confirms that the Universe is vast, and expanding, and that the most distant objects are separated from us by not by great distances, but by great periods of time.

You have made up some bizarre fantasy that there is some other "natural worlds" that separate parts of the Universe or periods of time but that we can still observe and that somehow behave differently from what we observe. Weird.

Do you have any evidence that supports your view and that could persuade us that you are on to something?


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 1087 of 2058 (840757)
10-04-2018 1:49 AM
Reply to: Message 1084 by creation
10-03-2018 10:46 PM


Re: nature of time
GR is fine. The issue is whether it tells us what time is, and what time is in the far universe.

Who is that an issue for? How do you know what it tells us?

creation writes:

Looking at some bent light does not mean GR had to have been responsible for the bending.

Well that's good, because GR is an explanation and a description, not a cause, or a force.

creation writes:

Since no distance to any star is known

The distance to millions of stars is known.

creation writes:

no sizes are known

Wrong again.

creation writes:

no mass...etc

Wrong about everything again, etc.

creation writes:

That means whatever gravity is at work is also not clear. Etc...

If this actually made sense it would still be wrong, etc.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 1088 of 2058 (840758)
10-04-2018 2:04 AM
Reply to: Message 1085 by creation
10-03-2018 10:50 PM


Re: nature of time
Being unable to deny getting busted is not honesty.

You're going to have to up your game a whole bunch before you can claim to have busted anything.

Patching up areas in a faulty model that are shown to be wrong is not self correcting.

Yours is a classic example of an uncorrected faulty model.

It is criminal cover up.

Really? "The Laws of the Universe have been broken in a most criminal manner, Your Honor. Then they covered up the whole affair with Dark matter."


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 1094 of 2058 (840828)
10-04-2018 3:30 PM
Reply to: Message 1093 by creation
10-04-2018 3:22 PM


Re: nature of time
Dark stuff is an invention, born out of a need to prop up the belief based models of science.
You might as well teach Jack in the Beanstalk in schools as science.

Right over your head.

It's "Jack and the Beanstalk."


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 1098 of 2058 (840858)
10-04-2018 7:11 PM
Reply to: Message 1096 by ringo
10-04-2018 3:46 PM


Re: nature of time
Your approach on this forum has been to parrot Points Refuted A Thousand Times. You have never made an attempt to seriously discuss how stupid those points are. I have suggested to you several times that you should pick one topic and discuss it. This running around from topic to topic and blathering nonsense isn't impressing anybody - except maybe your teachers.

He is just a troll. When you try to read his nonsense it's pretty convincing evidence that he has never had a teacher who was qualified to teach.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 1100 of 2058 (840865)
10-04-2018 9:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1099 by JonF
10-04-2018 8:49 PM


Re: nature of time
That's an unwarranted slur against teachers. I doubt the best teacher in the world could teach him anything.

Oh, I agree. I meant that he writes and thinks as if he never had a teacher. Dunning–Kruger effect.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 1114 of 2058 (841318)
10-11-2018 12:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1113 by creation
10-11-2018 9:22 AM


Re: nature of time
In layman terms this means all so called distances are circular religion. You lose.

How ironic that a religious person doesn't know the definition of religion or winning.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 1118 of 2058 (841384)
10-11-2018 11:39 PM
Reply to: Message 1117 by creation
10-11-2018 11:31 PM


Re: nature of time
That is just another way to try and graph time and space as a line that is supposed to be distance.

Yep. And we know exactly how to piss off ignorant creationists. There's fewer and fewer of you though.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 1119 of 2058 (841386)
10-12-2018 1:54 AM
Reply to: Message 1116 by creation
10-11-2018 11:25 PM


Re: nature of time
Yes. I do.

Trust me, you are seriously mistaken. So far, everything you have written proves it.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 1127 of 2058 (841447)
10-13-2018 2:08 AM
Reply to: Message 1123 by creation
10-12-2018 5:46 PM


Re: nature of time
You think you know.

Nope, I think you do not know.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 1160 of 2058 (841864)
10-23-2018 12:11 AM
Reply to: Message 1158 by creation
10-22-2018 11:08 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Science has no monopoly on beliefs.

The irony, it burns.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 1188 of 2058 (842185)
10-27-2018 4:02 PM
Reply to: Message 1186 by creation
10-27-2018 2:26 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
and uniformed, ignorant false teachers.

So, what did their uniforms look like?

When spirits are included in almost all beliefs, that is compatible.

I have absolutely no idea what this means. Show us a spirit, just one.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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