Should we teach both evolution and religion in school?

Hello archaeologist and welcome to EvC! (are you really an archaeologist by the way?) Niether do the vast majority of Christians. This is not about secularism or not, this is about who has the evidence on their side. I'm sorry to tell you, that's not the creationist side. Really? Nothing useful has ever come out of science? What's that thing you're typing on? Do you think that didn't come about because of science? Of course they are. Every scientific theory must make predictions that can be tested, that's the only way to determine if it's accurate or not. Again, this is not about secularism. When I visit a nursery, I see what nice things nature produces. Where's the evidence for a divine creation? -----Also, a free tip, use the "peek" button on the borrom right of this post to see how I did those nice little quoteboxes.

It most certainly does. Predictions can still be made. No it doesn't. No it isn't. It is proof however that you apparently don't know what evolution says. Hint: species incapable of reproducing with one another is exactly what evolution predicts. Plesae stop projecting.

Wait, you're denying even micro-evolution? You do realize we can directly observe micro-evolution, don't you? I don't think you can find a single creationist on this site who will support your contention that micro-evolution doesn't happen.

Oh no, it does exist, very much so, just ask any creationist on this site. It's a result of mutations, so, yes, it is the result of evolution. You might be pleased to know then that evolution isn't about origins. SUre.... if origins is indeed supernatural, then science can never find out how it happened anyway, so what's your problem here? Oh, and who gets to determine what is or isn't science? You? Sure it has. Also, you're wrong, it's in the sacred Hindu writings, which are older than the bible. No they didn't, they got it from Vishnu. Well, how nice of Vishnu to share that all with us, then. Since evolution takes away the god part, it fits the bill more than your god does. If it was a supernatural act science can't learn anything about it anyway, evolution has nothing to do with origins, and you don;t get to decide what was or wasn't a supernatural event.

The "no true scotsman" fallacy? Well, seems Gen 1:30 is wrong then. No! You do! Hey, assertion is easy. It was never altered in that regard, it has always been about change. Yes it is. So? And species do change. Of course there is, all the time in fact. Then why are you saying it is about origins now? They change it to match the evidence, yes, that's how science works. It wants to be accurate, you see. Evolution is not a thing that "came into contact" with life. Evolution happens because the copying process of DNA is imperfect, and because certain environments require certain things to better survive in them. Please try to at least get what evolution is right. I can, you got the definition of evolution completely wrong, for one. What? Define what it is? Of course it can, just like baseball gets to define what it is. You do realize that evolution is very important to the drug developping companies, yes? The influenza shots for example could not be made as effective as they are now without the ToE. No he didn't. Vishnu was earliest anyway, and he made everything, so there! Vishnu sure did! They are loyal to Vishnu, you just hate him and don't want to believe in him! That's why you changed everything to escape from Vishnu's truth!

Here, let me fix that for you: "When science disagrees with the bible, the bible is wrong".Or would you like us to believe that the earth has corners, that bats are birds or that the earth can stop spinning and this doesn't destroy everything on it, among other things?

Sure it does, Isaiah 11:12:

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And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

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Well, Joshua 10:13 says this:

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The sun stood still, and the moon stayed, Until the nation had avenged themselves of their enemies. Isn't this written in the book of Jashar? The sun stayed in the midst of the sky, and didn't hurry to go down about a whole day.

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If the sun didn't move, the earth must have stopped spinning. Or do you think the sun goes around the earth, like this also seems to indicate? I just did. Remember, you said the bible is right and science is wrong, meaning you will have to accept the fact that the earth has corners, and bats are birds. No, it is correct. So is the bible, being written by fallible men. Well, no one was, so I fail to see the relevance. Of course it is, just like it is possible to know what happened when a murder victim is found, and the police investigate. Are you telling me we shoul d let all the murderers go, afterall, according to you, we can;t be sure about events in the past. Would you care to lay down a method that includes god when doing science. When I drop something, how do I put god into my observation of the dropping item? When I see someone get sic because of germs, how do I observe god in those germs? Guess we should let those murderers go, how many observation of "the actual event" of the murder are there? Evidence the conditions were different?