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Author Topic:   Should we teach both evolution and religion in school?
Dr Adequate
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Message 151 of 2058 (659526)
04-16-2012 1:15 PM
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04-16-2012 7:36 AM


Having read your posts on other threads I too am coming round to the idea that you are a prankster (a "Poe", as we call it). No-one can be so thoroughly stupid about all the subjects that you're wrong about. I think you're just winding us up.

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 152 of 2058 (659555)
04-16-2012 5:08 PM
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04-16-2012 1:15 PM


ugh acronyms
man i hate acronyms. is Poe an acronym (POE?) and what does it mean?

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Message 153 of 2058 (659556)
04-16-2012 5:12 PM
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04-16-2012 5:08 PM


Re: ugh acronyms
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe%27s_Law

Tradition and heritage are all dead people's baggage. Stop carrying it!

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Message 154 of 2058 (659557)
04-16-2012 5:20 PM
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04-16-2012 5:08 PM


Re: ugh acronyms
man i hate acronyms. is Poe an acronym (POE?) and what does it mean?

Named after Nathan Poe over at Christian forums who once quiped that it is impossible to tell the difference between a serious fundamentalist (or conservative) and someone doing a parody of a fundamentalist because fundamentalists say the stupidest things. The Landover Baptist site is a good example.


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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 155 of 2058 (659721)
04-18-2012 9:11 AM
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04-16-2012 5:20 PM


Re: ugh acronyms
thanks and thank you Panda, I honestly thought it was an acronym.

Named after Nathan Poe over at Christian forums who once quiped that it is impossible to tell the difference between a serious fundamentalist (or conservative)

I have been a Poe before, Poe's law is accurate, no one can tell especially the condescending rage-liberals (they usually like to title themselves as intellectual).

Fundamentalists definitely put the Mental in fundamental.

I think the Landover Baptists are not Poes, When I lived in Missouri I went to a landover baptist church for a couple months, and they are serious about that weird stuff.

anyway I don't want to stray to far from the topic, I just cant understand how anyone would think teaching religion in public school would make much of any sense. I went to Catholic school, and we did have religion but it was a separate class (ie I had biology in the 2nd period and Religion in the 5th period, they never came up in the same class, and they really didn't contradict each other, but then again we have Jesuits so I could be spoiled.) Now I did take a world religions class at the university (which was public), but it was very nuts and bolts and covered the hows and whys of the major religions based on climate and the economies.


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Message 156 of 2058 (659722)
04-18-2012 9:14 AM
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04-18-2012 9:11 AM


Re: ugh acronyms
I think the Landover Baptists are not Poes, When I lived in Missouri I went to a landover baptist church for a couple months, and they are serious about that weird stuff.

Sure you aren't confusing it with Westboro Baptist Church? Landover is meant to be based out of the fictional town of Freehold, Iowa.


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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 157 of 2058 (659728)
04-18-2012 9:55 AM
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04-18-2012 9:14 AM


Re: ugh acronyms
shit.....LOL

you are right. I was totally confused, I'm getting another coffee.

I was thinking of Landmark Baptist (so crazy the "normal" baptists laugh about them).

wow i feel dumber than usual.


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Message 158 of 2058 (659824)
04-19-2012 1:06 AM
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04-06-2012 11:06 AM


Somebody doesn't know what uniformatism is.

Hint: the term was originated by Lyell (1830), who applied it to a concept expounded by Hutton (1788). It has do do with geology.

Geology = study of the planet earth
Geologist = One who does or paticipates in any of the geological sciences

Uniformatism is the logic and method by which geologists attempt to reconstruct the past. It goes like this: "The present is the key to the past".

Note that this includes catastrophies.

Emmanuel Velikovsky= Psychiatrist. Nothing to do with geology

uniformitarian astrophysicist

Edited by Pressie, : Changed the sentence order


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Message 159 of 2058 (659830)
04-19-2012 1:52 AM
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04-16-2012 7:36 AM


quote:
.... I don't think religion should be taught in the science class (but creation science should). ...
Creationism is not science. For creationists to put the word "science" after the word "creation" just to pretend that it is science, still doesn't make it science. It remains religion.

They can fool some people by using that tactic, but that haven't fooled the scientific community, which includes a lot of religious people.

And yes, if you want creationism taught in science classes, you are a zealot.


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Message 160 of 2058 (659840)
04-19-2012 7:00 AM
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04-18-2012 9:55 AM


Re: ugh acronyms
Don't feel bad, Arty: when I first found the Landover Baptist site I immediately registered to liberal-rage and made several pompous post about how wrong it is to keep African children as house pets...

Then I thought: 'hang on, I'm being SO trolled'.

Edited by Larni, : Clarification


The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53

The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286

Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134


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Message 161 of 2058 (659842)
04-19-2012 7:41 AM
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04-19-2012 7:00 AM


Re: ugh acronyms
Then I thought: 'hang on, I'm being SO trolled'.

When i read my first creationists post i thought he was a troll to.


Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand

Click if you dare!


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Larni
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Message 162 of 2058 (659849)
04-19-2012 9:09 AM
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Re: ugh acronyms
I have to say the site is bloody funny.

They use the Bible really well to justify thier points.


The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53

The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286

Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134


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Message 163 of 2058 (659933)
04-19-2012 5:09 PM
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04-19-2012 9:09 AM


Re: ugh acronyms
I can never tell with Americans, i learned my lesson with the first creationist i saw on the internet, this is a troll site right?

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand

Click if you dare!


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Message 164 of 2058 (659935)
04-19-2012 5:18 PM
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04-19-2012 9:09 AM


I have to say the site is bloody funny.

Edited by Catholic Scientist, : No reason given.


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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 165 of 2058 (660325)
04-24-2012 4:23 PM
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04-19-2012 7:00 AM


Re: ugh acronyms
Oh I don't everyone makes mistakes all the time.

Admin writes:

I have removed the posting permissions of Artemis Entreri in this forum, Creation/Evolution In The News.
For everyone else, the topic is legislation in Tennessee. Please stay on topic.

"if you cant beat them censor them" --liberal mantra

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