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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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OpticalIllusions writes: Kids should only learn about religions in school that their parents say are okay for them to learn. Why? The purpose of an education is not to learn what you want to learn or what your parents want you to learn, it is to learn in particular what others don't want you to learn. Education is to learn how to challenge ideas, think critically, test your beliefs.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
here is no comparison with any other works of mankind. No other books had anywhere near the number of contributors (39+), nor have any been written over such a long span of time (1,600 years). Yet it is profoundly cohesive in all of its contents. Utter nonsense. There is no such thing as "The Bible". There is not even a cohesive list of what should be included and excluded. Anyone making a claim that there is is either severely ignorant or a liar. In addition the Bible (any canon) is filled with inconsistencies, factual errors and contradictions.
In addition to the infinite profundity of the whole, it contains prophecies of many events that are still future in terms of time. These are given with adequate and specific details to be able to unmistakably predict in advance the events recorded. Bullshit. Not only are there no identifiable future prophecies but most past prophecies failed.
"The scientific view of the Universe is such as to admit only those phenomena that can, in one way or another, be observed in a fashion accessible to all, and to admit those generalizations (which we call laws of nature) that can be induced from those observations." Any explanation of observed phenomena, that invokes to any extent supernatural influence such as divine motivation, is thus inherently self-disqualified from being a scientific discipline. Of course, thank God. Until you bring verifiable evidence of a non-natural event you should exclude it from consideration.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
So how is creationism to be taught? What does the "smart educator" teach? Just as you outlined.
quote: The teacher should then go on to point out that scientists supporting creationism are all liars.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
It would get really awkward if the kids reached the conclusion themselves and challenged the teacher with it. I doubt the kids would be claiming to be scientists.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Can you read?
Kids, once presented with the arguments and realities, can reach the conclusion that they have been lied to by creationists without being scientists. Of course and it is even vaguely possible that there might be a Creationist who is simply ignorant and delusional and not a liar; but that is totally unrelated to what I said. Please actually go back and try to read what I wrote this time.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
It's clear that you can not or more likely will not read.
What you posted is unrelated to anything I said and I never suggested teachers should say the pastors are liars. Go back and learn to actually read what was written.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Where did I make such a claim? I discussed what what happen if the students concluded that the scientists were liars rather than hearing it from the teacher. Your reading is complete nonsense. Finally a glimmer of evidence that you MIGHT be able to read. You finally included the word scientist in your response. That is key to you beginning to understand what I am saying. Creationists may not be lying, they may be brain washed, willfully ignorant, delusional, even just plain wrong. However a Creationist who claims to be a scientist is by definition a liar. Edited by jar, : appalin spallinAnyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
When folk continue to misrepresent what I say I try to help them correct their errors.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Of course they are and it has nothing to do with religion and so the Constitution has no bearing.
Try thinking.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Colbard writes: Ringo writes: Show them under the microscope the tiny creatures that make up chalk. Then show them how high the white cliffs of Dover are and let them do the math. The millions of years will be pretty obvious. Or they could have been lumped together in a global flood? Utter bullshit and idiocy. Please provide a model and method for an flood sorting in that way.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I am familiar with the nonsense and bullshit proposed by Creationists. Perhaps you might have something better than their absurdities and lies.
They count on the wilful ignorance of creationists to get by with such con jobs. Can you do better?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
So instead of providing a model or method as expected you simply try to palm the pea.
That is normal from the Christian Cult of Ignorance.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Sorry but once again that is just nonsense.
What flood model can account for the layers found at Dover sorted by species?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
So you admit that there is currently no flood model that can explain the Dover cliffs.
But that is just one very small proof that the Biblical floods never happened; there are a couple hundred years worth of other such proofs.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But my opinion related to the Biblical flood is not opinion but conclusion supported by over 200 years of evidence.
You are free to believe that one of the Biblical floods happened but in doing so you are simply incorrect.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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