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Author Topic:   Should we teach both evolution and religion in school?
jar
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Message 477 of 2073 (741362)
11-11-2014 6:15 PM
Reply to: Message 474 by Faith
11-11-2014 5:29 PM


The God Faith markets was wrong! It really is that simple!
Faith, the simple fact is that the God you try to market was doubly wrong, both versions of a flood She included in the Bible never happened.
You just need to get used to the fact that the God you market is a dolt and ignoramus.

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jar
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Message 490 of 2073 (741485)
11-12-2014 4:52 PM
Reply to: Message 489 by Faith
11-12-2014 4:49 PM


Re: Coyotes call
But God said there were two entirely different Biblical Floods that were mutually exclusive, or haven't you ever read the Bible?
Which account of the Biblical Flood is true and which is just a lie?

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jar
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Message 558 of 2073 (741865)
11-15-2014 9:01 AM
Reply to: Message 556 by Colbard
11-15-2014 8:41 AM


Re: Paradox of teachings
Only an utter fool would accept that "a" is "a" on faith.
The teacher would explain the reason "a" is "a" and frankly, it is so simple even a Creationist might be able to understand.
"a" is "a" by definition. If we are going to communicate we will need some common language and in the language we use in this country "a" is "a".
That is not true though in all countries or all languages as you will learn when you are older.

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jar
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Message 564 of 2073 (741883)
11-15-2014 11:31 AM
Reply to: Message 563 by ringo
11-15-2014 10:57 AM


Radiocarbon dating metals.
IIRC there has been some results lately of dating metals by separating out some of the carbon in steels (particularly old spear heads and knives) and then dating the carbon.
The big limitations as expected is that the carbon must be from the same age as the artifact and the incorporation of fossil fuels like coal or coke will make the object date older than it is.
I still strongly doubt that he had any coin dated.
Edited by jar, : fix link

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jar
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Message 583 of 2073 (741997)
11-16-2014 8:55 AM
Reply to: Message 578 by Colbard
11-16-2014 5:38 AM


more fabrication?
By the way it was a state school with an atheist teacher, who by the way became a Christian soon after. Such a loss to the cause of the red sun.
I doubt that even more than your penny story.
By the way, the Australian penny was 97%copper, 2.5%zinc and 0.5% tin which makes your story even less plausible.

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Message 588 of 2073 (742007)
11-16-2014 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 587 by NosyNed
11-16-2014 12:04 PM


Re: MSL (Minimum Smart Level)
While the Good Lord may well have put limits on how smart a person can be, it seems there is no limit on dumb.

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Message 593 of 2073 (742052)
11-16-2014 2:46 PM
Reply to: Message 592 by Dr Adequate
11-16-2014 2:36 PM


Re: OC
Particularly since there is no carbon in an Australian penny.
From Message 583:
quote:
By the way, the Australian penny was 97%copper, 2.5%zinc and 0.5% tin which makes your story even less plausible.

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Message 604 of 2073 (742442)
11-20-2014 8:47 AM
Reply to: Message 599 by Colbard
11-20-2014 2:53 AM


Re: Independence in Education
Is that because evolution is a direct hit at the thought of God?
Of course not and to even think that is true is simply an indicator that the person who holds such beliefs is willfully ignorant at best, possible just delusional and more likely simply a liar or conman.
Many religious folk understand the earth is at least 4 billion years old, modern man appeared at least 50,000 years ago and that we are simply the result of evolution.
Independent thought is taboo to science, as it was heresy to the church.
More utter bullshit. Science evolves through independent thought and to deny that is simply at best a case of willful ignorance although it could possibly be delusion. Most likely it is simply lying or an attempted con job.

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Message 607 of 2073 (742446)
11-20-2014 10:18 AM
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11-20-2014 10:12 AM


Re: Independence in Education
One might also ask where the carbon14 and carbon12 came from since the Australian penny is 97%copper, 2.5%zinc and 0.5% tin.

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jar
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Message 629 of 2073 (742529)
11-21-2014 8:36 AM
Reply to: Message 624 by Colbard
11-21-2014 7:05 AM


Re: Religion v's atheism
The bottom line of modern science is to dismiss God, with or without mentioning the Name.
You just seem determined to show your ignorance, don't you.
I am religious and believe in God but also understand that we are simply evolved critters, that neither of the mutually exclusive Biblical Floods ever happened, that the earth is at least 4 billion years old and that you are simply full of shit, spouting nonsense and hell bent on convincing everyone that you are willfully ignorant or a liar.

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Message 641 of 2073 (742593)
11-22-2014 10:31 AM
Reply to: Message 636 by Colbard
11-22-2014 10:00 AM


Re: Belief in science
Evolution theory has 'proven evidence' to some people but not half of America, which have evidence against it.
Well no, they do not have any evidence against evolution.
Sorry but them's the facts.
To say that creationists are all deluded is self condemning, since half of the US believe in it.
Well fortunately no one says that, Creationists are willfully ignorant or lying or delusional. Of course any Creation scientists are simply lying.

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Message 653 of 2073 (742670)
11-22-2014 9:04 PM
Reply to: Message 652 by NAME OF THE ROSE
11-22-2014 8:47 PM


Re: Belief in science
There is absolute evidence for evolution.
There is zero evidence of any designer and certainly not an intelligent designer.

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jar
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Message 700 of 2073 (743002)
11-26-2014 9:30 AM
Reply to: Message 691 by Colbard
11-25-2014 11:44 PM


a chance for Colbard to learn stuff.
Firstly the 3,000 year old book is not wrong.
But you would have to prove which versions of the Bible are genuine, and what religions measure up to its standards. Virtually none.
Well if you are talking about the Bible then it is certainly not 3000 years old and most certainly has much in it that is factually wrong. It's not a matter of which version or any churches practices, it is that the words written are often contradictory, mutually exclusive and factually wrong.
Sorry but them's the facts.
Self worship is the key fault of the original apostate in heaven, and he has well succeeded in not only dragging a third of the angels with him, but the entire world.
Again, you are simply showing your ignorance of scripture and the Bible.
Satan was not involved in self worship, rather the issue was that He refused to bow down and worship humans as beings higher than angels.

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Message 756 of 2073 (744011)
12-07-2014 12:12 PM
Reply to: Message 749 by Colbard
12-07-2014 4:37 AM


Re: age questions
Yet you offer no evidence or even reasoning to support your assertions.
Why should anyone take you seriously about anything?

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jar
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Message 762 of 2073 (744039)
12-07-2014 4:34 PM
Reply to: Message 760 by dwise1
12-07-2014 3:22 PM


Re: Nonsense is the word
What is it about creationism and about fundamentalism that turns so many of them into pathological liars?
Add in Biblical Christianity.
There is absolutely no concept of honesty in Biblical Christianity, fundamentalism or creationism and there is a basic dishonesty inherent in all three.
The problem is that they are taught to trust the Source instead of testing the Content. The are educated by platitudes, through "truths".
"If you don't stand for something you will fall for anything."
The pastor, brother, bishop, preacher prances across the stage and presents them with "truths".
Therein lies the problem. Once they accept that they are given "truths" there is no hope of ever finding truth.
They are not taught to test and challenge and criticize the "truths". They are told "There are no contradictions in the Bible and it is the inerrant word of God" but they don't put their hands up and tell the pastor, preacher, brother, bishop "Woah there. Just a cotton picking moment. Are two fowl and seven fowl the same number of fowl?"
They are not taught to test whether what they are being sold is actually based on reality or is it just a con job? They listen to sermons; they do not question sermons.
If God says it is right then it is right. If Satan says it then it is wrong. They never look at the actual content to see which is right and which is wrong.

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