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Author Topic:   Should we teach both evolution and religion in school?
Theodoric
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Message 584 of 2073 (741998)
11-16-2014 9:14 AM
Reply to: Message 578 by Colbard
11-16-2014 5:38 AM


Name of school, teacher and approximate date please.
Whether this actually happened is researchable.
This large of an expense would leave behind a record. There will be other science teachers there that can confirm your claims. It won't cost me anything but time to research your outlandish claim.
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

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Message 605 of 2073 (742443)
11-20-2014 9:29 AM
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11-20-2014 2:53 AM


Re: Independence in Education
It's interesting that if someone does not believe in evolution, that they are automatically labelled as religious.
Not sure why you would state this, because obviously you are religious and you are a religious fundamentalist. Your dismissal of accepted scientific consensus is based upon religious belief and faith. Why are you trying to bullshit us?
Is that because evolution is a direct hit at the thought of God?
Only fundies beliefs about a god are threatened by evolution. Most people, religious and non-religious, do not think the two have anything to do with each other.
Why don't you just accept and proclaim your christian fundamentalism, or are you a ashamed of it?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 631 of 2073 (742538)
11-21-2014 10:18 AM
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11-20-2014 9:07 PM


Re: Religion v's atheism
You really need to read actually history. Not believe the fantasies in your head. The pope had no power in France prior to the revolution. The catholic church in France was in many ways independent of the Vatican. The king basically led the church in France.
Please provide evidence of this swing of the whole country into atheism.

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"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 635 of 2073 (742577)
11-22-2014 8:21 AM
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11-22-2014 7:40 AM


Re: Religion v's atheism
Bullshit. Read some history. You might find out that some of those states actually fought wars against the popes. Very few popes have wielded any true temporal power. The French catholic church was controlled by the kings. Many had a very contentious relationship with the Vatican.
Unless you have evidence for your premise of course. I know a few historians that would love to see your evidence of the popes control of Europe.
Also I amwaiting for you to show how France became an atheistic state after the revolution
Edited by Theodoric, : Oops typos
Edited by Theodoric, : Typing in deer stand. Need to proof better. Phone autocorrect sucks

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Theodoric
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Message 638 of 2073 (742588)
11-22-2014 10:25 AM
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11-22-2014 10:12 AM


Re: Religion v's atheism
Lol. Are you freaking serious? The great Vatican conspiracy. You refuse to provide a source? So no confidence I guess. History has sources. Original sources.
If no original sources it is fiction.
As most if the world is not Catholic how can they remove things from history books?

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Message 699 of 2073 (743001)
11-26-2014 9:25 AM
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11-25-2014 11:13 PM


Re: Belief in science
Swamp again? Please tell us what a swamp has to do with any of this.

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"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 794 of 2073 (744180)
12-08-2014 4:21 PM
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12-08-2014 9:40 AM


Re: How Should We be Teaching Science?
Still harping about a swamp I see. I have asked before but you refuse to answer. What does accident in a swamp have to do with evolution? Please I am very curious.
Edited by Theodoric, : Missed question mark

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Theodoric
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Message 803 of 2073 (744230)
12-09-2014 9:03 AM
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12-09-2014 7:30 AM


Re: How Should We be Teaching Science?
You still have nor explained what "an accident in a swamp" has to do with evolution. Please explain.

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"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 2063 of 2073 (898444)
09-23-2022 11:16 PM
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09-23-2022 10:20 PM


There is no god. If there were you would present evidence.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 2065 of 2073 (898455)
09-24-2022 10:46 AM
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09-24-2022 6:30 AM


Dwise1 on the hunt
I love it when he gets is dander up.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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