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Author Topic:   Should we teach both evolution and religion in school?
Dr Adequate
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Message 922 of 2073 (745657)
12-25-2014 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 920 by Rodnas
12-25-2014 3:20 PM


Re: A Q of authority
closed-minded, opinionated ignoramuses like you
insulting trashtalkers
You're not very self-aware, are you?
You also don't seem to know what "closed-minded" means. You have been asked to prevent evidence for your views. That's perfectly open-minded. That would be the quintessence of open-mindedness. What you apparently want is for us to accept your views without you putting forward any evidence for them. That would not be open-mindedness. That would be idiocy.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 928 of 2073 (745664)
12-25-2014 5:26 PM
Reply to: Message 925 by AdminAsgara
12-25-2014 4:03 PM


Re: TOPIC
OK, let's do that.
Evolution should be taught in schools because the people who object to it are a bunch of halfwits who don't even know what the word "evidence" means, let alone being able to produce any.
This generalization is admittedly based on a small sample.

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Message 949 of 2073 (759715)
06-14-2015 4:47 PM
Reply to: Message 940 by ggirard
06-13-2015 12:17 PM


However, to believe that natural selection is the only, or even prime, mechanism driving evolution is as much an act of faith as it is to believe in a supreme consciousness driving it.
Why do you say that? We can, after all observe evolution by natural selection. But we have never observed evolution driven by a supreme consciousness any more than we have observed evolution caused by Magic Evolution Pixies. Clearly it is less of a stretch to ascribe evolution to a process which we can observe causing evolution than to a hypothetical entity that we have never observed causing evolution; just as, for example, it is less of a stretch to attribute lightning to electricity, which we know about, than to Thor, whose very existence is questionable.

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Message 977 of 2073 (808566)
05-11-2017 1:27 PM
Reply to: Message 974 by Davidjay
05-11-2017 1:06 PM


Re: Got ya again .. Think bat think
Chir means bat, CHir stated that bats are our primates ancestors, and three other stupid evolutionaries said the same thing.
You are telling stupid lies again, David.
Whom do you hope to deceive? Granted, you are grossly, pitifully stupid, but even you must have noticed that you're not fooling anyone.

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Message 1146 of 2073 (841756)
10-21-2018 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 1144 by creation
10-21-2018 9:43 AM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Imposing beliefs..? I say let a majority decide. If they are Christian...let the main thrust be so.
If the majority of people think something untrue, that's not a reason to teach it, that's a reason to din the opposite forcefully in their ears. For example if most people think the capital of Australia is Sydney that's not what we should teach in schools, instead we should make a special point of telling them that it's Canberra.

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Message 1150 of 2073 (841791)
10-22-2018 12:40 AM
Reply to: Message 1147 by creation
10-21-2018 5:44 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
If they believe it over what you say is the truth, who is to decide?
The people who know the facts.
Just because there are two positions on what the capital of Australia is, that doesn't mean that it's actually in doubt, or that the two beliefs are equally valid. There is actual information to be had on the subject. And the same is true of genetics, geology, paleontology, etc.

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Message 1177 of 2073 (842074)
10-26-2018 10:43 AM
Reply to: Message 1175 by creation
10-26-2018 10:14 AM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Your dating methods have no value and are wholly religious.
You see this is exactly why your crap can't be taught in schools.
Since most beliefs and most history includes spirits, that does make spirits a common denominator.
And since most beliefs are incompatible, most beliefs must be wrong. It's like being wrong is a common denominator.
There is a lack of evidence from science that says no spirits existed.
It's on a par with the evidence that there are no flying pigs.

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Message 1198 of 2073 (842283)
10-28-2018 11:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1186 by creation
10-27-2018 2:26 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
False. When spirits are included in almost all beliefs, that is compatible. The issue of what they did, and which ones were good and bad is beside the point. People teaching that they know there were no spirits are liars, and uniformed, ignorant false teachers.
So for example when you consider Mohammad's report of speaking to the Angel Gabriel and to the God of Abraham, you think this should confirm your belief in spirits?
Why? Do you think that what he claimed was true?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 1199 of 2073 (842284)
10-28-2018 11:56 PM
Reply to: Message 1194 by creation
10-28-2018 12:37 PM


Re: This is a thread about what should be taught in school
Correlations as you present them are easily explained.
If it's so easily done, why don't you do it? We'll watch.

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Message 1259 of 2073 (842659)
11-04-2018 1:56 PM
Reply to: Message 1254 by creation
11-04-2018 12:09 PM


Re: Conclusion vs Assumption, Belief, teach the difference
As with so many creationists, your prescriptions for how science should be done would annihilate the whole of science. Just so you can ignore dendrochronology! Really, couldn't you find some way to question the results of dendrochronology that doesn't involve attacking it for being science?

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