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Author Topic:   Silly Design Institute: Let's discuss BOTH sides of the Design Controversy...
Granny Magda
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Message 119 of 219 (530032)
10-11-2009 11:50 PM
Reply to: Message 118 by Buzsaw
10-11-2009 11:27 PM


Re: Creationist Side Of Silly Design
Hi Buz, good to see you back! I'm still not gonna go easy on you though.

I don't think it's fair to classify intelligent design with astrology.

Tell that to ID celebrity Michael Behe;

New Scientist writes:

Astrology would be considered a scientific theory if judged by the same criteria used by a well-known advocate of Intelligent Design to justify his claim that ID is science, a landmark US trial heard on Tuesday.

Under cross examination, ID proponent Michael Behe, a biochemist at Lehigh University in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, admitted his definition of "theory" was so broad it would also include astrology.

Source

This is what Behe had to say at Dover;

Q Under that same definition astrology is a scientific theory under your definition, correct?

A {Behe} Under my definition, a scientific theory is a proposed explanation which focuses or points to physical, observable data and logical inferences. There are many things throughout the history of science which we now think to be incorrect which nonetheless would fit that -- which would fit that definition. Yes, astrology is in fact one, and so is the ether theory of the propagation of light, and many other -- many other theories as well.

Source

So apparently, one of the most famous names in ID thinks the comparison is valid and has said as much whilst under oath.

Mutate and Survive


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Granny Magda
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Message 159 of 219 (531369)
10-17-2009 11:07 AM


Silly Ammonites
Hi all. The evidence for silly design continues to flood in. If you thought the platypus was weird, check this monstrosity out; Nipponites mirabilus, probably the silliest-looking ammonite ever to disgrace the seas.

In life the unfortunate creature would have looked something like this;

Awful. Just awful. It's a wonder it had the gall to show itself in public. Clearly no intelligent designer would come up with something so patently impractical and ridiculous. A silly designer on the other hand...

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Granny Magda
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Message 162 of 219 (531475)
10-18-2009 7:03 AM
Reply to: Message 161 by Dr Jack
10-17-2009 1:38 PM


Re: Silly Ammonites
Hi Mr J,

You are not alone in suspecting that some kind of pathology is responsible for the bizarre appearance of this ammonite. That's what people thought when they were first recorded. However, since then, many more have been found, both in Japan and in America. They appear to be a species and are regarded as such.

Actually, not to downplay their silly potential, but they are a lot less shocking when compared to other heteromorph ammonites like this;

and this, a loosely helically coiled form;

Nipponites is thought to have evolved from something along the lines of the latter type.

There is further discussion of these weird critters at The Octopus News Magazine Online, a great site for anyone crazy about cephalopods.

Clearly, any designer who could create this animal, which looks like nothing so much as a dog turd with tentacles, can only be regarded as very silly indeed.

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