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inkorrekt
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Message 82 of 108 (291615)
03-02-2006 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by mark24
06-07-2005 9:02 AM


Re: Bizarre logic.
Creationism requires religious faith, evolution "requires" an acceptance based on a wealth of evidence (Mark) "which is missing". Evolution creates hypothesis first and is desperately attempting to fit in the missing evidence. No wonder they are angry when they are questioned.

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Message 84 of 108 (292551)
03-05-2006 10:51 PM
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03-03-2006 3:41 AM


Re: Bizarre logic.
Mark, all that information that is given as evidence is very very hard to believe. The laws of chemistry do not allow them to happen.

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inkorrekt
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Message 87 of 108 (293088)
03-07-2006 6:17 PM
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03-06-2006 8:59 AM


Re: Bizarre logic.
Protein sysnthesis has been quoted as evidence for evolution. Amino acids don ot form peptide bonds spontaneously. In order to make a protein whichis biologically active, the amino acid sequence must be exact. You form one peptide with 2 amino acids and to add the 3rd amino acid, you must protect the active group. Then add teh next amino acid. This goes on and on. This is how complex laboratory synthesis of peptide is. There ought ot be preformed structural and functional preformed proteins in the cell. This does no happen spontaneously.

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Message 89 of 108 (293468)
03-08-2006 8:37 PM
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03-07-2006 6:22 PM


Re: Bizarre logic.
What if the activity required is for ATPase?

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Message 91 of 108 (293487)
03-08-2006 9:25 PM
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03-08-2006 9:13 PM


Re: Bizarre logic.
You had quoted an example in which the reaction yielded a protein with ATP binding activity. I will rephrase the question. If the particular desired activity is for ATP hydrolysis, then ATP binding activity will not be useful.Is this correct?

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inkorrekt
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Message 93 of 108 (295306)
03-14-2006 4:50 PM
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03-08-2006 9:52 PM


Re: Bizarre logic.
It does not make any sense to me. What do you think is the possibility? If that happens, what is the purpose?

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inkorrekt
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Message 94 of 108 (295307)
03-14-2006 4:51 PM
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03-08-2006 9:52 PM


Re: Bizarre logic.
It does not make any sense to me. What do you think is the possibility? If that happens, what is the purpose?

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inkorrekt
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Message 96 of 108 (299690)
03-30-2006 8:31 PM
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03-08-2006 9:52 PM


Re: Bizarre logic.
If ATP binding is only for its own hydrolysis, then this makes some sense. Otherwise when ATP is bound and is hydrolysed, then, binding is unnecesary or it is a nonsensical reaction. Because, ATP is lost.

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Message 102 of 108 (303376)
04-11-2006 10:45 PM
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03-30-2006 10:26 PM


you have the answer
You have answered the question without undesrstanding what I wrote in reply to the previous post.

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