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hotjer
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Message 38 of 71 (561643)
05-22-2010 7:41 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by mike the wiz
05-22-2010 7:03 AM


Re: no barrier to mutation/s
quote:
I will never be convinced that God did not design humans. (...) I believe it is so obvious we need God
You will actual never be convinced and further you believe we need God? Interesting, that explains why you are unqualified to speak about science even as a layman. Still, you are stating some "obvious logical points" that you, for some reason, think the whole scientific community (not just the mainstream) ignore or cannot comprehend. By definition; you do not accept the scientific method to determine whether a hypothesis is correct or not: A) nothing can convince you, B) Implicit assumption that we need God C) you are referring to your blog (agenda). Actually, I think you just want to preach the word of God. I might be wrong, however, then I wonder why you respond to such thread.
About the topic:
Personally, I think it is quite fascinating that they started to do such thing, despite it was expected. Not because of the EvC debate (since ToE has nothing to say about the creation of life) but rather because of the progress and possible benefits of such development. I look forward to hear more about this field.

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hotjer
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Message 45 of 71 (561696)
05-22-2010 4:15 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by agent_509
05-22-2010 3:44 PM


Origin of life is abiogenesis. Not The Theory of Evolution (ToE) which explain diversity of life.
I think you use the term Darwinism as to try to view ToE as an "-ism", a dogma. If I am to guess, you see the ToE as a belief, right?
In any case, it does not matter since ToE does not explain origin of life.

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hotjer
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Message 51 of 71 (561714)
05-22-2010 5:44 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by agent_509
05-22-2010 5:06 PM


ToE is not controversial, only according to the minority creationists. At least, here in Denmark, and most of the world, creationists are minority and do not have any academic background or relation to science. Most people here in Denmark (and probably Scandinavia) do not know what a creationist is.
Evidence for ToE is a whole other story so I will not talk further about that in this topic.
I did note your post was not just about the origin of life, but you wrote it like it was related to ToE, at least it seemed to me, and therefore I responded in the way I did. Anyways, despite different view on life we seem to agree that this artificial life is not related to ToE (yet - it might evolve) and as it is now, it does not support neither ToE or ID or Creationism
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hotjer
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Message 54 of 71 (561718)
05-22-2010 5:53 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by agent_509
05-22-2010 5:48 PM


Old stuff
yeah yeah, irreducible complexity
take a look at this link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQQ7ubVIqo4
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