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Author Topic:   Ignorant, stupid or insane? (Or maybe wicked?)
hooah212002
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Message 36 of 89 (562058)
05-25-2010 12:48 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by Straggler
05-25-2010 12:42 PM


Re: Any takers?
It seems no matter how well educated or intelligent some people just hold faith above all else.
I witnessed this first hand with my ex-girlfriend. She's an extremely intelligent person (not a college grad, but a med-tech). It wasn't until I was with her for a few years that I learned she was a light-creationist who called me "an occultist", called my agnosticism a "thing" (that agnostic crap you believe in), called science a religion and called the ToE a "load of shit". Now, mind you, she likes science-y type stuff. She takes the kids to museums and zoos and whatnot. She enjoys looking at stars for their cosmological value. She just turns her mind off when it comes to "the beginning".

"A still more glorious dawn awaits
Not a sunrise, but a galaxy rise
A morning filled with 400 billion suns
The rising of the milky way"
-Carl Sagan

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hooah212002
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Message 38 of 89 (562061)
05-25-2010 1:11 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Straggler
05-25-2010 12:53 PM


Re: Any takers?
That sounds like a contradiction in terms but I do have some sympathy with that general sentiment with regard to agnosticism
It IS a contradiction. It goes to show her capacity to respect, acknowledge, or know anything about, any belief (especially a lack thereof) that is not jesus christ.
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"A still more glorious dawn awaits
Not a sunrise, but a galaxy rise
A morning filled with 400 billion suns
The rising of the milky way"
-Carl Sagan

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hooah212002
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Message 45 of 89 (575381)
08-19-2010 6:52 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Tram law
08-19-2010 6:45 PM


What's wrong with not believing in evolution?
Because it's not a belief.
Not accepting a particular theory is one thing. To blindly assert that it is absolutely false, fight against it, all the while not properly refuting it, is wrong. Ignoring facts when they go against your actual beliefs, is wrong. That is where the ignorant/insane/stupid labels are applied. If you don't understand something, learn about it. Don't just deny that it is factual because you don't want to learn.
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Your god believes in Unicorns

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hooah212002
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Message 81 of 89 (586906)
10-15-2010 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by SignGuy
10-15-2010 11:03 AM


Re: Evidence please
Note the subtopic title. Why is it, that whenever a creationist is pressed for evidence or an experiment, the first thing they say is along the lines of "you wouldn't accept it anyways". Let's see how you fare:
Look, nomatter what evidence I bring to the table for creation there is an enormous amount of data interpreted to support your views..
Figured as much. And this was in response to Ringo providing you with a simple experiment you could do yourself. Instead of refuting the experiment or performing it, you chose to cry about it.
And to be frank, I see the appeal of choosing to believe in evolution or some other natural process of existence. It is very convient, even if it all seems to be "logical".
Huh? Do you realize how much easier it would be to tell my 6 year old son, when he asks me about stars and clouds and animals, "god did it"? Fuckin AAA I would love for it to be that damn easy! THAT, my friend, is convenience. However, I would actually like for my prodigy to know how the world really works, not just give him some easy to swallow pill that requires no thought whatsoever.
On the contrary, the reason science doesn't reason with Christians is because it is something you feel & experience.
I think you juxtaposed the words "science" and "christianity". I've NEVER heard a scientist/atheist etc claim they "feel" science or evolution. However, time and time again, christians say exactly that about their invisible homie.
Becoming a true Christian is not easy..
I can imagine that it is, since every single christian has their own idea as to what a "trve christian" is....
Don't be suprised or offended if the majority of Christians dont even look at the data you present them.
Yes. Cognitive Dissonance is a bitch, isn't it?
But in general, on this website, I do not feel a common respect for other parties..
The only disrespect I see is for people who are seriously mentally challenged. The christians who don't just start spouting off at the mouth about dumb shit have no problems. You seem to actually be interested in civil discourse, so you shouldn't have a problem. For example: check out Slevesque (who is ALSO an administrator), GDR, purpledawn (also an admin) and iano, for example. Those three are all theists to some degree and do not receive any harsh treatment and have all been here for some time.
I have seen people who are religious called **** for brains, stupid, ignorant and ironically wicked.
The individuals who are on the receiving end of those monikers are deserving of them.
.but neither should expect an entire planet will end up beleiving ONE point of view.....that is impossible without brainwashing on some level..
To some extent, I concur. However, there are MANY concepts that do only have one valid POV. Would you accept the teaching of geo-centrism? Holocaust denial? What about 2+2=5?

"What can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof."-Hitch.

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