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Author Topic:   Opening the doors to creationism in British Schools?
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Message 19 of 129 (618048)
06-01-2011 4:50 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by Robert Byers
06-01-2011 1:29 AM


Re: Truth ?

You pick a unreasonable conclusion to show how the people should not decide.

Ok let the people decide on matters like: is the earth flat, are stars lights on the dome above the earth, is sicness caused by sin .... and after that lets stopp all travel by plain and sea because the earth is flat you wouldent weant to fall off the edge would you, and stop all space project bring our satelites down no mobile phones no satelit tv....., and then lets stop all modern medicine if sin is the cause of desiese then modern medicine is useless lets all just pray and make the sicnes go away.

Fact canoot be voted upon facts are facts, they hold true no mater your opinion religion or belief and ignoring facts in science leads to the dark ages.


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Message 21 of 129 (618068)
06-01-2011 8:29 AM
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06-01-2011 6:38 AM


Read the instructions fully before starting

You mean the test that virtually everybody fails their first time around goes something like this:

Read the instructions fully before starting
then 30 tasks of pure bullshit like poking holes in the test and stuff
Then the last task ignore all of the above tasks and just sign your name.


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Message 25 of 129 (618585)
06-04-2011 4:59 AM
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06-04-2011 4:49 AM


Science class in fact has no right to talk about biological or geological conclusions. they are about past and gone events.

Forensics has no right to talk about who killed who and with what because the murder was a past event.

The center for epidemics or whatever you call it has no right to point out the source of the epidemic because everyone was infected in a past event (even 5 minutes ago)

Smoking and cancer are not linked because every smoker that has cancer was smoging in a past event.

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Message 64 of 129 (622116)
06-30-2011 6:01 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Robert Byers
06-10-2011 4:53 AM


Equal time or nobody in SCIENCE class.

Creationism IS NOT SCIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT DOES NOT USE THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD

Observation
hypothesis
EXPERIMENTATION
peer review
More testing by other scientists trying to prove you wrong
Scientific theory
More tests more predictions of the theory come true, no one finds a better explenation, or proves it wrond
accepted scientific theory

What of the above has the "theory" of creation gone trough???

Edited by frako, : No reason given.


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Message 87 of 129 (624378)
07-17-2011 4:25 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by IamJoseph
07-15-2011 5:10 AM


How would you give your cosmology lecture 3,500 years ago and make it apply to all generations of humanity - a feat in itself no? Allow me to surmise a suitable answer.

1. First you'd have to nominate which universe you are discussing [w/o using the term universe], and whether that universe was finite or infinite [w/o using those terms], namely, did the heavens and the earth always exist or was there a beginning point? That appears the correct preamble.

2. Next up, I imagine you would have to deal with how the universe was made. My suspicion is you would have to conclude that the universe works via majestic engineering, namely by LAWS. But since the universe never existed once, thus the laws also never existed. Here, you have to say that LAWS occured - and the universe took form from the formless. How else!?

How far am I from the first cosmological recording?

3. Next, as pivotal cosmological examples, what would you nominate as the first product which emerged from those laws? How about Light as the primordial force product?

And when you get to the stars, if you said they were inumerable and incalcuable, as the grains of sands, it would not be a bad description or vary from today's science - what do you think? Or feel free to nominate a better ancient introduction of what became known as COSMOLOGY?

Hows about this way

Ok moses let me tell you how i made this universe.

Day 1 i snapped my fingers and all the energy and matter and space where made
Then i waited a few billion years for all the matter to condense in to stars and planets
Roughly 4.5 billion years ago this little planet formed orbiting this little a billion years later i made the first life on this planet it was to small for you to see with your naked eye then i waited and life grew and diversified every generation was a bit different like you are a bit different from your mother and father. Then finally a few hundred thousand years ago the first intelligent life formed your ancestors and i guided them a bit trying to teach them right from wrong ....

Was that too hard to tell that he had to lie to moses and tell him well genesis ???


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Message 110 of 129 (625457)
07-23-2011 8:15 AM
Reply to: Message 106 by IamJoseph
07-22-2011 10:43 PM


The flat earth was not abandoned because Galeleo said so - it had tio be proven as false. This obligation remains on the scientific community to dispell Creationism.

Well it is the obligation of the creationist community to prove that Chronos did not create the universe by making a dagger out of his rib and cutting into the darkness. Until then the chronos theory should be taught in schools.

The same goes for pink gravity faries , the pink unicorn, mumbo the guy who had an upset stomach and vomited the universe into exsistance ....

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