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Larni Member (Idle past 42 days) Posts: 3998 From: Liverpool Joined: |
So, is there no alternative to Creationism? Even though you just said there were two viable and credible options for the emergence of the universe?
Cosmology is not part of Creationism. Proof: Cosmology is science and creationism is bronze age tribal myth.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 2416 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
quote: The two are: a Creator based creation, or not. In a finite realm, the former wins from a scientific POV. quote: The first recording of what was later coined cosmology, is in Genesis. So is the first recording of a finite universe and the first categorising of life form groupings. Very bronze-like. Now show us another bronzy writings of similar myth?
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 2416 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
I imagine in a British school, the verse in Genesis which describes the clothing of the first humans as a cute Disney like story. In reality though, Genesis is saying humans are unique as the only life form requiring clothing.
Thread carefully - Genesis is a deceptively simple writ not one for the uniniated. European Christianity and Islam have mis-represented a document they at no time followed or studied, taking it on board 2000 years later, retaining only whatever they can align with their own beliefs. It is why the world is in shock when the true meanings are put before them. Britain would have to first discard all that was said of the Hebrew bible by Christianity - otherwise they will be studying myths.
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Larni Member (Idle past 42 days) Posts: 3998 From: Liverpool Joined: |
Once again, you provide no evidence to support you point! Again and again you pontificate about what you believe to be real without any evidencery support. As for saying that Genesis is the first recording of what would be cosmology I take it you are completely unaware of the Summarian creation myth that predates Genisis by a looooong time. Happy to educate you in theology an area you are (along with science) obviously deficient in. Let me guess, you did either humanities or engineering at university.
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Panda Member (Idle past 2461 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Do not take your clothes off or YOU WILL DIE!! If god had meant us to be naked, then we would have been born naked!!
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Taq Member Posts: 8465 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
Then please show us a peer reviewed scientific paper where this POV was used as part of a research program.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 2416 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
1. Creationism [genesis]. A universe with a universe maker.
2. Everything else.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 2416 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
quote: As anyone can see, there is nothing superfluous in this writing. Its not a Walt Disney story - we are told with manifest evidence one life forms is unique - it alone requires clothing - told with the ushering in of the life forms.
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Wounded King Member (Idle past 2843 days) Posts: 4149 From: Edinburgh, Scotland Joined: |
As Panda has pointed out humans do not require clothing. Certainly it is not generally socially acceptable to run around naked in many modern societies and the use of clothing has allowed humans to expand the environments they can comfortably adapt to. But to suggest that humans have to wear clothes moves your writing from superfluous to simply ridiculous.
TTFN, WK
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Panda Member (Idle past 2461 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
So, you continue to make bare assertions with no evidence to back them up. People do not require clothing. You just make crap up as you go along, don't you. Edited by Panda, : No reason given.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 2416 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
Actually, as it turns out the manifest facts are on Genesis' side, people DO require clothing; they ARE the only life forms in that category; that IS a non-superfluous declaration in Genesis.
And here I was thinking in a scientific thread the posters will display adequate thinking rather than engaging in auto-dispute mode. Bite the bullet!
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Panda Member (Idle past 2461 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Prove it. You made the original claim - prove it. I have lived in Iceland without clothing. Explain how. Edited by Panda, : No reason given.
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 97 days) Posts: 3188 Joined: |
Homo-sapiens require three things and three things only: air, water and nourishment; everything else is luxury. This same statement can be made for all warm blooded mammals. I don't suppose you are going to provide evidence (the bible doesn't count one whit, we are on the science side) for your absurd claim?
"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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Panda Member (Idle past 2461 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
I think the saying goes thus: 3 minutes without air. Edited by Panda, : No reason given.
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Taq Member Posts: 8465 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
You claimed that creationism was scientific, so I will make my request once again. Please show us a peer reviewed scientific paper where this POV was used as part of a research program.
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