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Author Topic:   Problems with evolution? Submit your questions.
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Message 189 of 752 (577240)
08-27-2010 6:50 PM
Reply to: Message 187 by onifre
08-27-2010 5:25 PM


Onifre writes:

But conversing is how we also spread information. Critical information. So we need to talk. Maybe laughter from dialogue helped us want to talk.


"A funny thing happened to me on the way to the cave the other day...." Bad things that almost happened can be funny and serve as cautionary tales at the same time.


Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.
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Message 396 of 752 (583360)
09-26-2010 2:31 PM
Reply to: Message 394 by barbara
09-26-2010 10:11 AM


Re: The flood myth
barbara writes:

I am not disagreeing about the flood myth but I do wonder why pieces of seashells can be found everywhere on the planet.


It's easier to lift a mountain slowly than to drown it quickly.


"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi
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Message 404 of 752 (587851)
10-21-2010 3:35 AM
Reply to: Message 403 by dennis780
10-21-2010 3:01 AM


Re: The flood myth
dennis780 writes:

Continental uplifting does NOT occur in Egypt.


Try Googling "continental uplift egypt".


"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi
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Message 433 of 752 (598557)
01-01-2011 11:29 AM
Reply to: Message 429 by mike the wiz
01-01-2011 8:38 AM


mike the wiz writes:

One can know stuff without believing it.


That's like saying, "One can eat stuff without wearing it." The two concepts are mostly unrelated.

I don't "believe" that evolution is true, nor do I "know" that evolution is true. I accept that evolution is true because of what (little) I do know about evolution.

I don't let what I "believe" negate what I know. Beliefs can influence how you interact with reality but they don't effect how reality works.

In general, you can't wear your cake and eat it too. If you claim to know about evolution but you still believe it isn't true, it's probably because it's on your face instead of in your stomach.


"I'm Rory Bellows, I tell you! And I got a lot of corroborating evidence... over here... by the throttle!"
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Message 467 of 752 (598615)
01-01-2011 2:31 PM
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01-01-2011 12:05 PM


mike the wiz writes:

The common allusion is that a creationist doesn't know that evolution is true or factual, because of a lack of knowledge.


What people are telling you isn't that you "will" accept evolution if you learn enough about it. They're telling you that non-acceptance of evolution correllates closely with ignorance of evolution. Most people who deny evolution do so without knowing the first thing about it.

mike the wiz writes:

I believe in many of the following;

Genetic drift
natural selection
mutations
isolated population
the homo genus
all of the fossils
speciation
micro-evolution
adaptation
allele frequencies
normalised selection etc,

I only disagree with the very final conclusions inferred from such facts.


What is it, specifically, that you don't accept about evolution?

(Please, please, please don't say that evolutionists are trying to prove there's no God.)


"I'm Rory Bellows, I tell you! And I got a lot of corroborating evidence... over here... by the throttle!"
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Message 476 of 752 (598628)
01-01-2011 2:56 PM
Reply to: Message 470 by mike the wiz
01-01-2011 2:41 PM


Re: Last Post
mike the wiz writes:

Usually evolutionists will say; "where is the barrier to mutations and selection", but logically it's like saying; Where is the barriers to that completely paralyzed person?

That is to say - first you have to prove that a man can jump a hurdle, before I have to prove there is a hurdle.


So... we have to show you where the horse is before you can put the cart in front of it?


"I'm Rory Bellows, I tell you! And I got a lot of corroborating evidence... over here... by the throttle!"
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