This thread was going along okay enough when it was just people being wiseasses (myself included) while waiting for SwampDonkey to reappear, but it doesn't look like he's coming back. I never held out much hope for this thread anyway, and given that ICANT is once again being his inimitable self, I'm going to move this to Free For All.
By chance you seem to have begun your participation at EvC Forum in the only unmoderated forum. This thread is in the Free For All forum, and there's no moderation here, except for some occasional checking that the threads remain at least somewhat on-topic. If you'd like a more focused discussion you might try one of the threads in the Science Forums or in the Religious Forums, where moderators tend to place the emphasis on evidence-based discussion and on following the Forum Guidelines.