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Coragyps
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Message 19 of 752 (565989)
06-22-2010 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by AZPaul3
06-22-2010 9:47 AM


There are literally hundreds of billions of comets around the Sun with orbital periods in multiple 100,000 years (for a single orbit!).

Fixed it... :-)

Flyer, within the last ten years I read an article at Answers in Genesis that claimed that there was no evidence for the Kuiper Belt (a closer-in cousin of the Oort Cloud). Soon after that, when a couple of dozen Kuiper Belt objects had been discovered, AiG replaced that article with another article that said, paraphrasing, "yeah, there are a couple of thing out there, but not enough to explain comets!!1!!"

Quoting one page: "It should also be noted that the observed KBOs are much larger than comet nuclei. The diameter of the nucleus of a typical comet is around 10 kilometers. However, the recently discovered KBOs are estimated to have diameters ranging from about 100 to 500 kilometers." That's a classic example of YEC bullshit and obfuscation. KBO's are less reflective than coal, and are five billion kilometers away from us. They are rather dim. It is a technological marvel that we can detect the ones that are 500 km in diameter! Of freakin' course we haven't seen the 10-km diameter ones out there! We see them when they fall into the inner solar system as comets, though!

AiG doesn't seem to say a lot about Kuipers now that over 2000 of them have been catalogued.....

The Oort Cloud is much further from the sun than the Kuiper Belt - like 100 to 1000 times further. If it takes cutting-edge instruments to see Kuipers, it's not a big surprise that we don't see Oorts.

AiG link: http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v16/i2/comets.asp

Swamp Donkey, where have you gone? Are you the Black Knight here under an alias?


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Coragyps
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Message 37 of 752 (566138)
06-23-2010 8:39 AM
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06-23-2010 2:08 AM


Reading the page in it's entirety I don't see any factual evidence that this cloud exists.

But we have the evidence of comets on parabolic orbits, direct or retrograde, with every angle of inclination you can think of. That IS factual evidence - they are coming from somewhere.

Does the YEC model have a place for comet storage? I know that Job mentions snow and hail storehouses....


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Message 44 of 752 (566201)
06-23-2010 2:57 PM
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06-23-2010 2:05 PM


Re: Question
DNA has a tremendous amount of information stored in it, where did all that information come from?

From mutations in the DNA of earlier generations of organisms, ICANT.

You can point a telescope equipped with a spectrograph at a star and figure out what elements and molecules are present in the star's atmosphere, whether the star is moving towards us, how strong its surface magnetic fields are, its temperature, how fast it rotates......lots of things.

Does that spectrum contain information? If not, why not? If so, where did it come from? Is there an intelligent angel on each star in the universe making up things like D-lines and Zeeman effects?


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Message 47 of 752 (566209)
06-23-2010 3:18 PM
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06-23-2010 3:06 PM


Re: Question
There is no known natural process for this to happen.

Oh, but there is. Mutation and natural selection is one such natural process.


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Coragyps
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Message 54 of 752 (566225)
06-23-2010 3:47 PM
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06-23-2010 3:40 PM


Re: Question
Do you have an empirical example of a code or language that occurs naturally?

Yup. The DNA in the nuclei of the cells (excluding red blood cells) in my body. You have a couple of trillion examples of your own.

AbE: any comments on stellar spectra?

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