Hi again havoc, try to stick to one issue at a time and you might make some sense, rather than dropping argument after argument.
So if you know the end game the phrase that you want you can get there. However this is not how selection works. Only traits that give that generation a breeding advantage will be selected.
You were the one to introduce the poor analogy in the first place, so now you are complaining that it doesn't represent evolution? LOL.
... However this is not how selection works. Only traits that give that generation a breeding advantage will be selected.
Those that survive and breed will survive and breed, some will survive and breed better than others, but in all cases it is a matter of fitness to the ecological opportunities that drives the selection.
In the case of this poor analogy what we have for the "ecological opportunities" is the phrase from Shakespeare that you select, and selection takes those tiles that fit the ecological opportunities, and reshuffles the rest. This would represent (badly) following generations and testing them for fitness to the ecological opportunities.
It would be better a better analogy if you took say 10 or 20 tiles at random from the pile, and tested them for fitness, then took another 10 or 20 (with a supposedly endless pile of tiles to draw from, but you could keep the relative relationships of various letters in the mix).
You could also try taking a specific phrase to start with and then replacing letters until you developed a different phrase, but the modeling there is even worse compared to actual biology.
This does not explain how sight or flight or micro motors or proteins can come into existence the first time.
And that was not what you asked. Your post
Message 615 said:
Is there a base in any genome that can not be mutated?
Agreed mutations can and do occure. However you can shake up the scrabble board as often as you like and you will never get a Shakespeare.
so once again ...
... you are moving the goalposts.
Every famous mutation ... once examined at the molecular level has been shown to involve information loss.
Answered on
Message 634 (See
Irreducible Complexity, Information Loss and Barry Hall's experiments, particularly part 2 of the first post) and
Message 669
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