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Message 136 of 140 (569474)
07-21-2010 10:13 PM

Reply to: Message 133 by Woodsy
07-21-2010 9:34 PM

Re: intuitive linking

Woodsy writes:

I really am beginning to think that religion does horrible damage to the human higher mental processes.

What do you think?

Like Georges Lemaître and Gregor Mendel and Francisco Ayala and Michael Heller and Jefferts Schori?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 137 of 140 (569489)
07-21-2010 10:53 PM

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Message 138 of 140 (569493)
07-21-2010 11:06 PM

Closing Statement

Scientists have distinguished between abiogenesis and evolution ever since the terms were first coined.

The creationist desire to muddle them up I attribute to what I think of as ritual wrongness. It's like their pretense that dinosaurs are still walking the earth. Because people who know more than they do take the trouble to correct their error, they think they must have something to gain by being wrong.

They don't, they just look ignorant.

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Message 139 of 140 (569496)
07-21-2010 11:09 PM

Reply to: Message 123 by marc9000
07-21-2010 7:47 PM

Re: intuitive linking

Atheism is the conclusion and evolution is the pathway. Just like religion can be a conclusion, and Intelligent design can be a pathway. Either both are true, or both are false. Atheists want to disconnect evolution and atheism, and combine ID and religion. It’s a double standard.

It's a single standard --- the truth.

Of course I understand that the Christian path works the same way. A Darwinist tree can get in the way, and be a problem, and Christians can tend to dance around it and continue on the Christian path. But the continuance on the same ‘worldview’ path is comparable, evolutionists are as guilty as religious people in making their study arrive at a conclusion that they’ve already reached.

There's an old proverb to the effect that the thief thinks everyone else steals.

Just because creationists have no intellectual integrity doesn't mean that no-one else does.

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Re: Terminal topic drift/abandonment - Closing soon

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