Well now I guess I’ll never know whether ICANT agrees that the random sentence mutation program he linked to can actually produce new information or not. Might save that question for a new thread when he returns from holiday.
Anyway this proved to be a more thought-provoking thread than I had imagined after reading the OP
ICDESIGN asked:
When does design become intelligent? Crashfrog claims the eye would be an intelligent design if the Retina face the light-sensing layer out towards the front, where the light comes in; not backwards, towards the inside of the scull, with two layers of light-insensitive cells between the iris and the incoming light. I have a solid rebuttal to that argument
at what point does design become intelligent?
As with everything it often comes down to definitions. To my way of thinking design implies a process of planning for a particular outcome. Thus to me anything that is truly designed requires an intelligence. The level of intelligence may vary, many things are poorly designed
but designed nevertheless.
The antenna example did throw me a little, but on reading the link provided by Subbie it seems that the antenna was produced through a process of engineered evolution via a random mutation process and artificial selection rather than what I have defined as design. Maybe I just need to rethink my definition of design?
Of course the real question for creationists is how can we discern that which is designed from that which isn’t? I think Buzsaw has given the best answer so far:
Anything that is designed by an intelligent agent is intelligently designed.
Equally accurate as it is useless