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Jumped Up Chimpanzee
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Message 56 of 142 (570688)
07-28-2010 10:19 AM
Reply to: Message 52 by Pauline
07-28-2010 2:38 AM


You seem to have this idea that self-authentication is just claiming X. Not so at all. Claiming X after demonstrating your rights and reasons to claim X.
(My emphasis above.)
Please let me know if I am correct in interpreting this to mean that:
A) Science is self-authenticating (because it can always "demonstrate the rights and reasons to claim X").
B) Religion is not self-authenticating (because it cannot "demonstrate the rights and reasons to claim X")*.
*Of course, if a religion ever strays into an area where it can demonstrate the rights and reasons to claim X, then it must be agreeing entirely with science on that point.

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Jumped Up Chimpanzee
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Message 78 of 142 (570839)
07-29-2010 5:51 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by Pauline
07-28-2010 10:51 PM


Jumped Up Chimpanzee: Self-Authenticated Ultimate Authority
In the beginning, Jumped Up Chimpanzee made the Heavens, the Light, the Sun, the Earth, all the Plants, Animals, Man and Woman.
Oh, and fungi.
Jumped Up Chimpanzee saw what He had done, and saw that it was good. Really good, in fact. As good as anything could possibly be.
Jumped Up Chimpanzee called himself, The Lord, because that’s a suitable title for someone who is ultimately in charge of everything.
The Lord said, I am ultimately in charge of everything.
The Lord made up a load of rules for Man and Woman to follow.
The Lord told a lot of stories that helped convey the morals behind those rules.
Sometimes Man and Woman obeyed those rules, which pleased The Lord.
Sometimes Man and Woman disobeyed those rules, which angered the Lord and made him hand out punishments (which are too gruesome to go into here).
The Lord did a load of other stuff, mostly involving the weather, but essentially, that’s about it.
The Lord says, all of the above is true.
And a bunch of guys called Tom, Dick and Harry also say, "it's true."

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Jumped Up Chimpanzee
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Message 82 of 142 (570873)
07-29-2010 9:46 AM
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07-29-2010 7:13 AM


Re: You got me!
{Non-topic blather belatedly hidden - Adminnemooseus}
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : No reason given.

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Jumped Up Chimpanzee
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Message 87 of 142 (571076)
07-30-2010 5:10 AM
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07-29-2010 3:30 PM


TOP STUFF!
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