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Message 12 of 90 (569938)
07-24-2010 6:40 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by ringo
07-24-2010 6:23 PM


As far as I'm concerned, there's little or no difference between OEC and YEC. They're both anti-scientific and fundamentally dishonest. According to something I read somewhere sometime, Ross was the only known exception - but there goes another bubble burst.
I'm afraid the closest we're going to get to that is Kurt Wise.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

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Message 16 of 90 (569943)
07-24-2010 6:55 PM
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07-24-2010 6:50 PM


Because he is the only honest creationist I am aware of. At least, he is honest to the extent of what motivates him and what his bias is. He has explicitly stated that he relies only and solely on the bible, and that no amount of evidence will ever convince him that the bible is wrong.
He also, at least to my knowledge, doesn't lie about the evidence. He does try to twist it all to conform to his assumption about the bible, but he doesn't lie about it.
Of course, his honesty doesn't make him the least bit more scientific. But then, there's no such thing as an honest, scientific creationist.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

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Message 23 of 90 (569956)
07-24-2010 8:12 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Flyer75
07-24-2010 7:42 PM


Re: "So-called" evidence
I take mine from Scripture.
This piques my curiosity. If you don't mind a couple of questions...
Does this mean that you reject any science that conflicts with the bible?
What is your purpose in coming here?

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

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