UFO's or Demons

For goodness sakes, if you are going to make examples of illogical couplings of believe, try to at least have them make some sense. Did you ever take an IQ test where they asked you to compare A is to B as blank___ is to blank____?In that type of test you are supposed to make similar comparisons, like Peach is to cherry, as Broccoli is to A. a table B. Dogs C. a socket set D. AsparagusI think you might have failed this kind of test. Someone who does not believe in supernatural beings but believes in ghosts IS NOT equivalent to someone who DOES believe in supernatural spirits and ALSO believes in ESP!One is a contradiction, the other is perfectly logical!!!Hint the answer is D.

How does "supernatural spirits" provide any support or consistency with ESP?Please be specific.

One time, around 15 years ago, I, being sober minded and under the influence of nothing other than post charismatic camp meeting hype, clearly heard several voices coming out of a guy in my living room, while others prayed over him. To this day, everyone involved has questioned the story yet found no other evidence for the source of those voices. Naturally, we want the demon hypothesis to fit, but in all honesty, no other explanation seems plausible. The voices were quite literally out of this world. My hair actually stood on end (on my arms) while the phenomenon was happening. Thats why I am not going to totally dismiss the possibility that otherworldly phenomena exist.

What is the evidence that the source of the voice was 'out of this world' whatever that means?What is the evidence that it was called by 'demons'?

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Do we?I have read the posts of many people reporting they've 'seen' demons (My GF's mother likes to retell the story to her children of when she saw a real, live witch floating in the air). As far as being a psychological disorder, then we're screwed. Read the news? How many children and women have been immolated or stoned because they were accused of being a witch. Is that a far cry from being a 'demon'?I've heard many reports of people who swear that they have seen ufo's. Is there a difference?(People have been to psychiatrists after they've reported being 'abducted' by aliens. The funny thing is, there have been psychiatrists who believe them. What does that tell you? )

I would say that Christians or those with a religious bent, as a general rule, are more likely to believe in demons. What rough ratio of Christians believe in ufo as demons is a question I am trying to figure out.

Not trying to be pendantic here, but I wouldn't go so far. The evidence is slim. It might be more correct to say that there is evidence that ufo's may exist (we exist after all). Which gets to the heart of what you're saying, I think. At least to me, independent of any other data, the basis of whether ufo's might exist rests solely on our own existence.

You seem to be contradicting yourself. Were the voices "literally" in your living room or "literally" out of this world?

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You may be right. My thought was that our society seems to be more accepting of the possibility of technologically-advanced aliens than it is of "supernatural" beasties. It may be a stretch to say that we actually treat the "eye-witnesses" differently.

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Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.

Actually, I've personally seen flying things that I could not identify. I don't know what else those things could be called except Unidentified Flying Objects.We know for a fact that not just I but other people have seen things they could not identify.The error comes when anyone tries to move such sighting from "Unidentified" into flying saucers or demons or space ships or ghosts or ...

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

hahaYou would go to the technically understood meaning of the word and not the 'popular' meaning of ufo = flying saucer.I would agree with you that there are unidentified flying objects all around us just as a matter of the technical meaning. I would hazard a guess that ufo as flying saucer is what Bolder-dash was refering to and that you knew that.

Are they the same type of belief though? I mean the alien abductions, specifically? At one time in our history, we took demon visitations as a matter of course. Now, they've been 'transformed' into alien visitations. I think the underlying assumption is that humans, perhaps as part of the nature of our brains, make stuff up when we don't understand what we experienced or saw or can't reason through it. (The brain taking shortcuts? *shrug*)

There was a reason I did that.We need an "Unidentified" folder, and we need to understand that and it's function. The error that Buz and Bolder-dash and so many others make is that they mislaid their "Unidentified or Unknown Cause" folder and don't use them.We need to be reminded to use them, keep them handy and refer to the contents regularly to see if with new data we can move any of the contents to one of the Known Cause folders.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Demons and alien visitations probably do have the same subconscious source. Often the aliens don't seem as fearsome or malevolent, though. There seems to be more wishful thinking involved than there was with demons.

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Life is like a Hot Wheels car. Sometimes it goes behind the couch and you can't find it.

This will be off-topic but I couldn't resist. It would not be unreasonable to conclude that by the very fact that the aliens have the technological know-how to travel inter-stellarly, that they probably would have gone through that period of history in which they might have 'blown themselves up'. Having survived that period of history, it seems reasonable to conclude that they would not blow other 'beings' up. Secondly, and much, much more probable is the fact that having that technology, they would have the technology to also gather what they required without adversely affecting other sentient races. Why experiment on us humans? All it would probably take is a swab of our dna and they'd learn all they could know about our physiology.