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CosmicChimp
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Message 38 of 109 (570578)
07-27-2010 9:26 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Bolder-dash
07-27-2010 5:54 AM


Hi Bolder-Dash,
Your observations and questions are quite interesting. I'd like to think I will be able to jump into this 'coffee house' thread occasionally and offer a bit of what I know and have been able to think through to you for as long as the thread is active. So it may seem as though I am ignoring most of your posts or that your points could be taken as valid, this is however not the case. Many of your questions will have already been answered to a very well reasoned position even before I have seen your latest post.
Your scenario with a series of fortunate mutations seems to be ignoring the idea that not all mutations need be beneficial. You seem to be presenting an unbroken series of beneficial mutations and just ignoring the plethora of other types of mutations present in every individual of the population.
We could of course go on and on with these fortunate beneficial mutations which are so rare, but let's return to the present for now.
Essentially, you are saying that populations of organisms are receiving a continuous series of beneficial mutations. You have assumed that a fortunate mutation must come from a set of beneficial mutations and are thus rare. Mutations of any type, are not rare and any one of them is a potentially beneficial mutation.

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CosmicChimp
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Message 43 of 109 (570594)
07-27-2010 10:20 PM
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07-27-2010 10:10 PM


You are implying that the mechanism is insufficient. But why is it insufficient? Is it because it seems to be for you too improbable? Mutations are practically raining down on a population and you don't see that it causes some of them to reproduce more effectively?

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CosmicChimp
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Message 48 of 109 (570607)
07-27-2010 11:13 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Bolder-dash
07-27-2010 10:34 PM


Your question resolves to probabilities. You seem to think that the improbable is impossible.

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