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Author Topic:   Why complex form requires an Intelligent Designer
Wounded King
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Message 61 of 165 (358279)
10-23-2006 9:47 AM
Reply to: Message 59 by crashfrog
10-23-2006 9:01 AM


DNA stores amino acid sequences.
That isn't all that DNA does, a fact which make your next reply to KBC substantially wrong.
While 'a child can understand the genetic code', that is not the be all and end all of the relevant material stored in the DNA. Where and when a developmental gene is expressed can be vital determinants of the resulting morphology. As a consequence there is a huge amount of non-coding genetic material concerned with the regulation of expression and which in many cases we do not understand the mechanisms for.
So while it may be simple to understand how a protein coding gene codes for a specific amino acid sequence it is by no means a given that we can tell where and when that gene will be expressed simply by looking at the genetic sequence.
We do have some idea of how a variety of mechanisms of regualtion operate however, so KBC's claim that it is a 'black box' is similarly overstated.
TTFN,
WK

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Wounded King
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From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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Message 63 of 165 (358310)
10-23-2006 1:03 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by crashfrog
10-23-2006 10:37 AM


It's pretty obvious that you haven't read any of the rest of my posts in this thread, because I make that exact point over and over again.
Oh right, and where did you say anything about our knowledge of the mechanisms of regulation? If you think you made that exact point then I cant see it in any of your posts.
The fact that you recognise the existence of regulatory elements in DNA doesn't make your response to KCB less wrong in presenting, as it does, our knowledge of the genetic code as if it somehow contradicts the contention that the genome encodes information for what morphology an organ will have. Particular proteins produced in the right time at the right place can determine morphological properties of an organ/tissue.
It seems to me that KCB's question is about how the network of developmental genes and the regulation of those genes leads to the production of a specific morphology, in that context simply discussing the genetic code is insufficient. The fact that KCB doesn't know enough to formulate such a question meaningfully doesn't mean that your answer is sufficient.
TTFN,
WK

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