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hooah212002
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Message 20 of 96 (574519)
08-16-2010 10:20 AM


From Should we teach both evolution and religion in school? Message 111
I figured I'd respond here, since there is no moderation in this topic and I am going to spew venom:
and you want to trust something that doesn't know anything yet guides life to all these creative varities? why would you follow something that didn't know anything and provided nothing? no security or hope in that.
so you put your faith in nothing then. not smart.
That is your problem, isn't it? You are a scared little bitch who needs your invisible sky-daddy to hold your hand and save you from evil. The world IS a scary place. Man up, little bitch boy. I assume you are a) very young, b) a troll, c) have led a VERY sheltered life (did your dad beat you a lot? maybe he sexually abused you, too?), d) you were home-schooled because your abusive parents didn't want you to stray too far from under their wing.
There is no help for you due to reason B, since trolls gonna troll and EvC will continue to respond to you.
I will take from Greydon Square:
"Go ahead, ask your god to strike me. Oh, he can't because he's fake like Thor, so bite me"
Edited by hooah212002, : fixed quote

"A still more glorious dawn awaits
Not a sunrise, but a galaxy rise
A morning filled with 400 billion suns
The rising of the milky way"
-Carl Sagan

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Message 23 of 96 (574549)
08-16-2010 3:33 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Dr Jack
08-16-2010 3:15 PM


You should be ashamed of yourself.
Glad you think so. This douchebag is a troll and EvC is being trolled hardcore. Had he revealed himself to be interested in any sort of debate, even remotely so, since this is a debate site for fucks sake, I would not have said it. Since when is EvC a place for looney tunes to spout crazy? I have a certain level of respect for this site, namely due to the fair shot everyone is given. But to allow idiots to interject their idiocy unabashedly, then to be scared to ban them simply because we all know their tactics?
I call 'em like I see 'em and I see a dishonest, childish troll, NOT a respectable member of this community, not even a respectable person. I see not a person, but a troll.

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Message 52 of 96 (574687)
08-17-2010 9:32 AM
Reply to: Message 50 by thingamabob
08-17-2010 9:28 AM


It is pretty debatable whether or not it was Josephus who wrote about it. Many say that it was a later addition to his work by someone else: a forgery.
Edited by hooah212002, : grammar

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Not a sunrise, but a galaxy rise
A morning filled with 400 billion suns
The rising of the milky way"
-Carl Sagan

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Message 56 of 96 (574693)
08-17-2010 10:00 AM
Reply to: Message 53 by Dr Adequate
08-17-2010 9:35 AM


Wow, I hadn't heard that the entire work was a forgery. I thought it was just the jesus bits.

"A still more glorious dawn awaits
Not a sunrise, but a galaxy rise
A morning filled with 400 billion suns
The rising of the milky way"
-Carl Sagan

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Message 59 of 96 (574699)
08-17-2010 10:30 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by Dr Adequate
08-17-2010 10:19 AM


Right you are. Thanks for the correction. I admittedly haven't read it, but briefly perused it and have only heard of the Testimonium Flavianum being referenced, not the entire work.

"A still more glorious dawn awaits
Not a sunrise, but a galaxy rise
A morning filled with 400 billion suns
The rising of the milky way"
-Carl Sagan

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Message 60 of 96 (574701)
08-17-2010 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 58 by Theodoric
08-17-2010 10:26 AM


Re: The Testimonium Flavianum
It's always a sign of a good day when you learn something so early, even when it comes at the expense of looking like a buffoon.

"A still more glorious dawn awaits
Not a sunrise, but a galaxy rise
A morning filled with 400 billion suns
The rising of the milky way"
-Carl Sagan

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Message 66 of 96 (575071)
08-18-2010 8:06 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by ICANT
08-18-2010 7:26 PM


Why would the Jews write much about Jesus?
Are you implying they don't give a hoot about historical facts? Wouldn't some of them write about it because it happened? Just because they didn't accept him as the messiah, they surely would acknowledge his factual existence and factual resurrection, if the events attributed to the alleged jesus were, indeed, factual. If the only people who would have written about him were people who actually believed he was who you say he was, well, that throws a stone on the lily pad, now doesn't it?

"A still more glorious dawn awaits
Not a sunrise, but a galaxy rise
A morning filled with 400 billion suns
The rising of the milky way"
-Carl Sagan

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Message 78 of 96 (575276)
08-19-2010 9:17 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by ICANT
08-19-2010 12:20 AM


They as our historians recorded and perserved what they wanted us to hear and believe.
You must be referring to the Texas Board of Education. That is the only group that I can think of in America that is trying to skew history and hide things from children.
I didn't know until recently that we had 22 African American Republicans elected to congress prior to 1890 and one became speaker of the house.
If our history can be erased in a hundred and 30 years why would I believe that the Jews would keep a good record of an event they denied happened?
If you know about it, how was it erased? On top of that, how is your ignorance anything more than validity of your ignorance?
Luke is considered a creditable historian by most scholars.
Forgoing the validity of this statement, I will ask you this: was "Luke" there? Was the author of "Luke" even named Luke? You seem to not want to address the fact that what we are after is someone who WITNESSED jesus christ in the flesh. No one did. Or if they did, they didn't think he was worthy of documentation.
Did "Luke" report on the events? Or did he re-tell them? Better yet, did he just copy what someone else wrote?
So Archaeology bears out that many things recorded in the Bible is true and that Luke was factual.
Like Coyote said, Archeology has done a lot more that you don't accept, so it's extremely dishonest for you to all of a sudden accept the field of science just because you claim it proves your beliefs.

"A still more glorious dawn awaits
Not a sunrise, but a galaxy rise
A morning filled with 400 billion suns
The rising of the milky way"
-Carl Sagan

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