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Dogmafood
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Message 7 of 96 (574440)
08-15-2010 10:12 PM
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08-15-2010 7:59 PM


Principles of Logic and Critical Thinking
by Jeremy Moore May 24, 2005
Logic and critical thinking are lost arts in American public discourse, and most public education never broaches the topic. The following article offers college-level knowledge on logic and critical thinking.
Page not found - GoogoBits

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Message 10 of 96 (574453)
08-15-2010 11:36 PM
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08-15-2010 7:59 PM


This quote from an article in the Biblical Archeology Review.
The heart has its reasons, which reason does not know. This famous line from Pascal’s Penses draws a wise distinction between religious faith and intellectual inquiry. The two have different motivations and pertain to different domains of experience. They are like oil and water, things that do not mix and should not be confused. Pascal was a brilliant mathematician, and he did not allow his Catholic beliefs to interfere with his scholarly investigations. He regarded the authority of the church to be meaningless in such matters. He argued that all the powers in the world can by their authority no more persuade people of a point of fact than they can change it.1 That is to say, facts are facts, and faith has no business dealing in the world of facts. Faith resides in the heart and in one’s way of living in the world.
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Dogmafood
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Message 12 of 96 (574458)
08-16-2010 12:49 AM
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08-15-2010 11:49 PM


These discussions drive me crazy as it feeds the myth that it is either evolution or Christianity. They are compatible unless one tries to read the Bible in a manner that was never intended. The Bible can be true without being literally true.
Yeah me too. I have a brother in law with similar views. He is a brilliant guy and very successful. Engineering type no less. I asked him about the galaxies that appear to be so far away and he goes all glassy eyed. It is like a physical impairment.

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Dogmafood
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Message 15 of 96 (574500)
08-16-2010 9:04 AM
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08-16-2010 5:07 AM


Turkey Shoot
they may not have mentioned the word 'americas' but they traveled to the land, we have roman wrecks off the coast of south america, thus there was a new world.
Yes, we know there was a new world. I am surprised that you admit it though.
How is this different, then, from them not mentioning evolution?

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Message 55 of 96 (574690)
08-17-2010 9:44 AM


"A man hears what he wants to hear and he disregards the rest." S & G
There is a profound lesson in this thread somewhere. What does it show us about how we communicate?
16 tonnes of logic will not open the vault that is Archies mind. We need the 2 oz key.

  
Dogmafood
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Message 86 of 96 (576486)
08-24-2010 9:36 AM
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08-24-2010 7:05 AM


Perhaps you could start with the one about the ancient Minoans having telescopes.
"To view and be able to portray a perfect image of the constellation Argo on the Phaistos Disk (right), Daedalus could have made telescopes, and even binoculars (left), using rock crystals with optical quality for lenses. It seems likely that many of these pictographs on the Phaistos Disk represent the stars and constellations viewed through those lenses. The Archaeological Museum in Herakleion, Crete has many such lenses on display, several of them found in a sacred cave on Mt. Ida in Crete (3rd left). "
source http://www.diskoftheworld.com/diskindex6.htm#lenses

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Dogmafood
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Message 90 of 96 (576504)
08-24-2010 10:26 AM
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08-24-2010 10:21 AM


Re: Telescopes in ancient times
It's something of leap to jump from this to telescopes.
Indeed it is. I was surprised to hear that the Minoans had telescopes. I presume this is the type of thing that passes for confirmation for some. Is there an image of these lenses anywhere?

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