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Author Topic:   Crop circles and intelligent design
ringo
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Message 135 of 150 (701981)
06-28-2013 1:05 PM
Reply to: Message 131 by Peter
06-28-2013 10:14 AM


Re: absurdum
Peter writes:

Just because I can demonstrate A way of doing something, does not mean that all instances of that 'something' were created in that way.


That's true. Just because gravity causes some objects to fall doesn't mean that voodoo isn't causing some others to fall. What we are lacking is any evidence of another cause.

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ringo
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Message 149 of 150 (702197)
07-02-2013 12:11 PM
Reply to: Message 141 by Peter
07-01-2013 5:54 AM


Re: absurdum
Peter writes:

It's more like saying that because I can write a simple set of computerised rules that can cause a spider-web design to be created, that spiders must use the exact same rule-based mechanism to do what they do.


Actually, it's more like saying that:
  1. IF humans could MAKE a spiderweb, and
  2. IF we had no evidence that spiders exist,
Then we could conclude that spider webs are made by humans.

The question is: Who do we KNOW that can make spiderwebs or crop circles? We know that spiders can make spiderwebs so we don't need to look for another cause. Only if we KNEW that humans could make spiderwebs would they be viable candidates for the source of any spiderweb.


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