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jar
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Message 12 of 51 (574700)
08-17-2010 10:33 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Buzsaw
08-16-2010 11:18 PM


Re: Meaning Of Conservative
Buz writes:
In Russia it would mean to conserve totalitarian socialistic principles.
Buz, you do know that Russia is a democracy don't you?
Buz writes:
Since the founders founded a republic (republican) and not a democracy (democrat) the tennants of the Republicans has traditionally been more conservative than those of the Democrats.
Republic or democracy have nothing to do with political parties. Your second point is equally untrue. Do you know as little about the GOP as you do about the Bible?
Traditionally it has been the Republicans that have called for Universal Health Care, controls on drugs, labeling and false advertising, bringing unions to the table as full partners in negotiations, placing limits on business practices, creating the Environmental Protection Agency, indexing Social Security, requiring minority participation in government contracts...shall I go on?
See this thread over at Dreamcatcher.

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jar
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Message 19 of 51 (574802)
08-17-2010 9:43 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by DC85
08-16-2010 10:42 PM


meanings of words
DC85 writes:
One thing that's been on my mind lately is the shift in thinking in what the word Conservative means.
It certainly has changed. BUT... I don't think that is the issue. You do get close to the issue in the next section...
DC85 writes:
It seems to me he was talking about his Christian views and not Conservatives.
Today terms like socialist or conservative or liberal or Christian have nothing to do what the terms meant in the past. They have become little more than Buz words, meaningless crap used for driving the emotions of the non-thinking citizenry. Christian means the far right wing anti-science reactionary groups that during the late sixties and early seventies decided to take over a political party, first the Republican Party in the late 70s and more recently the Tea Party.
These folk are not really Conservative, more reactionary fascists in nature, nationalistic, reactionary religious, looking to model society on a corporatist model. The coup was successful and they were able to get the crook and traitor Ronald Reagan elected.
The terms today mean nothing. Conservative or Christian just means good; Liberal or Socialist just mean bad. Like I said, nothing but sloganeering.
Edited by jar, : fix sub-title

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jar
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Message 22 of 51 (574810)
08-17-2010 10:46 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by nwr
08-17-2010 10:42 PM


Re: Meaning Of Conservative
But "emerged into" is certainly worthy of a chuckle.
Edited by jar, : appalin spallin

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jar
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Message 24 of 51 (574815)
08-17-2010 11:04 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Buzsaw
08-17-2010 11:00 PM


Re: meanings of words
I'm sorry but what does any of that have to do with my post?
In case you are confused about what I posted, here it is.
quote:
Today terms like socialist or conservative or liberal or Christian have nothing to do what the terms meant in the past. They have become little more than Buz words, meaningless crap used for driving the emotions of the non-thinking citizenry. Christian means the far right wing anti-science reactionary groups that during the late sixties and early seventies decided to take over a political party, first the Republican Party in the late 70s and more recently the Tea Party.
These folk are not really Conservative, more reactionary fascists in nature, nationalistic, reactionary religious, looking to model society on a corporatist model. The coup was successful and they were able to get the crook and traitor Ronald Reagan elected.
The terms today mean nothing. Conservative or Christian just means good; Liberal or Socialist just mean bad. Like I said, nothing but sloganeering.

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jar
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Message 35 of 51 (574898)
08-18-2010 10:06 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by Buzsaw
08-18-2010 9:52 AM


talk radio?
Buz writes:
Relative to the Bill of Rights, liberals don't apply it to talk radio but miss-apply it to defend the rights of those violent interests I've cited which seek to suppress freedom in America and forcefully impose their values on the people.
Once again you seem to be simply posting falsehoods. Can you support a single piece of evidence in support of you position?

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jar
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Message 39 of 51 (574922)
08-18-2010 12:46 PM
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08-18-2010 12:35 PM


Re: Meaning Of Conservative
Buz writes:
Like the liberals and secularists who wish to impose their values on evreyone, all must do it lawfully and according to the rules.
I suppose you can actually show where liberals or secularists really imposed their values on ANYONE?

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Message 47 of 51 (575036)
08-18-2010 6:23 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by Buzsaw
08-18-2010 8:58 AM


Evidence?
Buz writes:
Also, it is mostly liberals who advocate for Islamic interests and black militants in this nation which really does aspire to impose their religious and racial views on everyone.
Do you have any evidence to support that assertion?

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