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Author Topic:   Conservative = Christian?
DC85
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Message 1 of 51 (574624)
08-16-2010 10:42 PM


One thing that's been on my mind lately is the shift in thinking in what the word Conservative means. One quote by Marc9000 in the "separation of church and state" thread struck me
Strange how some scientific posters see separation of church and state in the first amendment, but don’t see freedom of speech for conservatives there.
EvC Forum: Separation of church and state
It seems to me he was talking about his Christian views and not Conservatives. Is this common and is this what most think a Conservative is now?
There is no doubt the Republican party has wrapped itself around Religion and every election Cycle it becomes more and more apparent. Issues in most elections have become about Christian beliefs and "morals"
What does this mean for a two party System? How is this possibly a good thing for the political climate?
I suspect this is one of the reasons the Democratic party is incapable of rallying around anything. Multiple views are all crammed into a single party. If you support Gay rights or support Full Separation of Church you're magically a democrat "Liberal" when this is obviously far from the truth.

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DC85
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Message 4 of 51 (574629)
08-16-2010 11:28 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Buzsaw
08-16-2010 11:18 PM


Re: Meaning Of Conservative
In the US it would mean to conserve the Judeo-Christian principles and the Constitutional republic based largely upon Biblical principles.
Yet these ideas weren't huge with Republicans until recently Buzz.... Perhaps this isn't the case?
Since the founders founded a republic (republican) and not a democracy (democrat)
Yet the republicans constantly scream about "The will of the People" and majority rules. This is evident with The Prop 8. decision.. I think you need to look at how you define these things again.

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DC85
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Message 45 of 51 (574970)
08-18-2010 3:52 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by Buzsaw
08-18-2010 8:58 AM


Re: Meaning Of Conservative
Millions of conservatives aren't even evangelical Christians.
Indeed Buzz Many of these are definition Libertarians(American) who support Religious freedom and are not into wasteful spending such as excessive Military and War. The word Libertarian seems to also been hijacked by the Religious right. What does it mean now?
Also, it is mostly liberals who advocate for Islamic interests
To be honest Buzz I don't like Islam at all. I however will stand up when people try to deny them rights given to them by the Constitution.
and black militants
Please define... If this leaks into a discussion into a topic about NAACP or ACLU I'd be happy to take that debate in another topic.
and seem to want to impose their religious views on everyone else by political means.
This one floored me. You mean "conservatives" pushing Christian "principles and morals" into law isn't doing this? I'm somewhat confused.
and racial views on everyone.
wanting to be treated the same in all aspects of life is pushing horrible views on the population?
Edited by DC85, : No reason given.

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