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anglagard
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Message 106 of 341 (584036)
09-29-2010 9:30 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by barbara
09-29-2010 9:03 PM


Which Came First?, the Dog or Human Civilization?
barbara writes:

I'm sorry I thought that all breeds of dogs was man's creation

All dogs are from wolves as has been recently shown through genetic examination.

It is obvious that such a symbiotic relationship was of great help in a hunter-gatherer society, to both species.

Now the real question is - considering the selfish gene - which one initiated the process and which one benefited the most?

May I suggest Dawkins for the question and Diamond - considering all domesticated species, including plants - for one potential answer?


The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
— Salman Rushdie

This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen


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anglagard
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Message 182 of 341 (620048)
06-13-2011 10:53 PM
Reply to: Message 178 by Crazynutsx
06-13-2011 1:41 PM


Shoes Fit Both Feet
Crazynutsx writes:

you cant prove a fossil had any kids, so you can not prove evolution

I just spent a lot of (unexamined) credibility trying to educate some of the greatest intellects here the difference between proof and beyond the valley of massive evidence.

With this simplistic comment, I see such debates with you are, how should I put it, necessarily should be a learning experience.

Do you know the difference between proof and evidence? As already pointed out, volcanic eruptions happen along with landslides and they can bury both eggs and parent with eggs.

The evidence is there. What so-called proof do you have that previous life forms were or were not subject to similar environmental conditions as exist in the present.

Please remember, evidence is not your parents, relatives, or preacher.

In my experience, they usually don't save lives by using science.


The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
— Salman Rushdie

This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen


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