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Message 150 of 341 (587000)
10-16-2010 5:47 AM
Reply to: Message 143 by barbara
10-15-2010 4:29 PM


Re: Time Tree : : Timescale of Life
Some people here do not agree that genes actually carry information

If this where true, transfering Jellyfish Genes, the ones that make them glow in the dark, to rats would not make rats glow in the dark. Guess what they made fluorescent rats, so gens hold information.

http://www.wisn.com/health/16166778/detail.html


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frako
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Message 152 of 341 (587016)
10-16-2010 10:41 AM
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10-16-2010 10:16 AM


Re: Time Tree : : Timescale of Life
well information on how the organism should look, and function.


No, sorry, that's a poor argument.

If I hammer a nail into a car tire, the tire will go flat. We usually don't say that it is because the nail carries information. Rather, we say that it is a cause.

i dont get it, if the gen did not have any information on how the organism should look like and function, then there would be no change in the organism.


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frako
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Message 154 of 341 (587021)
10-16-2010 11:07 AM
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10-16-2010 10:55 AM


Re: Time Tree : : Timescale of Life
Would you say oxygen molecules contain information describing how iron is to rust? I would not.

would you say a tiny hole in a cd-rom that alowes light to reflect from the mettal in the middle of the disk contains information? Or no hole and no light reflecting from the metal in the middle does that have any information?

the principle behind it is yes and no, 1 and 0, put a bunch of yes and nos in a row and you have some information. Im guessing gens work in a similar way though they are not as simple as yes and no on a cd.


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Message 159 of 341 (587040)
10-16-2010 3:10 PM
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10-16-2010 11:34 AM


Re: Time Tree : : Timescale of Life
ok i give.

genetics is not my cup of tea, i am more in to economy. In short i can tell you tomorow, why the economic predictions i made yesterday for today did not come true.


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