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foreveryoung
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Message 265 of 341 (693644)
03-19-2013 2:21 AM
Reply to: Message 256 by Tangle
03-18-2013 4:02 AM


Re: Chimpanzee-human last common ancestor
It is our spiritual qualities that are a special creation. Our morphology is not anything special except for the amount of brain size that is not tied up in regular biological functions. It is the large amount of brain free to think abstractly that God used to create our "soul". By soul, I mean the ability to be spiritual. He did not guide evolution to arrive at our condition; instead, he finally found a species that would be capable of interfacing with a "soul" after about 700 million years of multi-cellular evolution.

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foreveryoung
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Message 267 of 341 (693647)
03-19-2013 3:59 AM
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03-19-2013 3:27 AM


Re: Chimpanzee-human last common ancestor
The soul is the part of us that seeks to communicate with and understand its creator. Find me another animal that does this. BTW, myth does not mean false. Genesis is a collection of myths that tell a true story. Bronze age nomads could not understand either the concept of evolution or of deep time, and so myths built around the culture of the time were constructed to convey how we got here and why we are here. Does this mean that the message is false? No. If you try and use the language as a piece of modern scientific language, of course you will find it to be false. The message is that God is responsible for the universe and the earth and us being here. It is the answer for those with a "soul" who seek to communicate with their creator. The other things like talking snakes are not truly false either. Of course there were no talking snakes but there was an intelligent being who conversed with two people called adam and eve and tried to get them to believe that God did not have their best interests at heart. I see no reason not to believe there wasn't a garden and a forbidden tree. Of course there is no way to prove any of this happened. My point is that just because something is a myth does not make it untrue. It is just a truthful story that uses literary devices to make a point.

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foreveryoung
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Message 281 of 341 (693716)
03-19-2013 5:21 PM
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03-19-2013 4:40 AM


Re: Chimpanzee-human last common ancestor
I'm afraid that if something is a myth, then it is just a story and is untrue. There was no flood, there was no Adam, there was no snake, there was no 7 day creation and so on.

How do you know there was no adam? Just because there wasn't a talking snake doesn't mean there wasn't something there speaking to adam. There was no literal 7 day creation but this again is a literary device that is trying to make a point. There was a creation and the writer of Genesis divided it up into 7 periods. You may like to believe that a created world is a myth but your belief is just as good as mine. Before you state that you have evidence on your side, I will let you know that evolution and the arrival of our planets and sun etc through natural means does not rule out creation. As for the flood, there was a flood near the black sea during the time that noah may have lived that fits what Genesis says if you were looking at it through the eyes of noah.


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foreveryoung
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Message 289 of 341 (693742)
03-19-2013 7:16 PM
Reply to: Message 285 by Tangle
03-19-2013 6:23 PM


Re: Chimpanzee-human last common ancestor
Apart from there being absolutely no evidence for Adam except in the stories that you now call myths you mean?

So, you know that something doesn't exist if the only evidence for it is written down in a text? Like I said, myth does not mean a book of fairytales made out of whole cloth. There is truth behind it.

Well, we know that H. Sapiens evolved over hundreds of thousands of years from ape-like ancestors. Homo was not formed out of clay in an act of creation, so there was obviously no Adam.

I am sorry. I do not follow you at all. I know good and well the evolution of homo. Whether adam was actually formed out of clay or not is irrelevant. This says absolutely nothing as to whether or not adam existed.

The global flood you now also accept as bunkum but you're still trying to reconcile your new knowledge with the old. You'll soon work out that none of it works and that the only rational conclusion is agnostic. Most people at that point seem to remain vaguely deistic, some of us throw the whole thing out.

I believe there is a God. I believe he has revealed what he wants us to know about himself in the Bible. Just because I have thrown out old interpretations of the Bible doesn't mean that the Bible itself is a pack of lies. Much of what the bible says historically has been revealed to be true through archaelogy. Obviously the book is not equivalent to Alice in Wonderland.


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