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Author Topic:   Irreducible complexity- the challenges have been rebutted (if not refuted)
Percy
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Message 5 of 112 (1587)
01-05-2002 4:35 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by lbhandli
01-05-2002 4:12 PM



Larry writes:
Clearly you aren't very observant.
Ahem!
And welcome back!
If John Paul is a YEC, then I think inclusion of ID concepts may be an inconsistency in his perspective. Behe style ID is OEC. If the world is truly younger than 10,000 years then the amount of evolution occurring since creation is certainly little enough to not have crossed kind boundaries, in which case there's no need for Behe's IDer to initiate the evolutionary milestones he describes in his book, like propeller propulsion and blood coagulation.
--Percy
[This message has been edited by Percipient, 01-05-2002]

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Percy
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Message 18 of 112 (1754)
01-09-2002 10:38 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by John Paul
01-09-2002 6:45 AM



Larry writes:
My goodness, do you understand that the piece by Behe that you cite accepts Doolittle's evidence as common descent? Do you read what you cite?

John Paul replies:
Yes I read what I cite and I like I said before I don't care what Behe accepts.
I think I see what Larry is getting at. If I can explain by analogy, you can repair a Dodge with parts from a Chevy, but you'll run into lots of problems with parts that don't fit, and those require some extra work. You can borrow from Behe, but some parts don't fit with your views, and you need to address those issues. Is that it, Larry?
--Percy

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