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but the human scientist is the same variable. he decides which experiments, what the parameters are, what the prediction will be and so on. then he uses artifical and controlled enviornments and factors to make his experiment. i do not see you having an argument.
You misinterpreted what I wrote and therefore you do not comprehend the argument. E.g. some equations could try to determine; what geological phenomenon would occur 4,350 years ago? In this case, if we implement all known evidences into these equations, we can approximately say something about the weather, temperature, landscape formation etc. In this case; we have an enormous amount of data, however, the data does not support a global flood — just as an example.
However, if we put God into that equation everything is possible because; God is almighty. There might be a few constraints due to Gods mentality, but he can practically make any event happen; and that goes for all equations. Turn water into wine? Sure, Jesus/God did it! Global Flood? Sure, God did it! This process of thought does not improve our knowledge about natural phenomena, however, there is a possibility of a existing God that actually made a Global Flood and made it look like it never happened. Before you say the Global Flood actually took place, please, provide evidence, and when I say evidence I mean data which is not equal to the Bible. The Bible might be historically correct (more/less), however, they are assertions and assertions do not qualify as good evidences.
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then science cannot be used as an authority in any field of life, including the legal system. it cannot be relied on to be a determiner, let alone a final one as it is often used. and no one can appeal to it for anything.
no one said anything about themeaning of life but truth,/error, right and wrong must be a part of the program or you have nothing and are just wasting everybodies time because you cannot have understanding without those 4 elements involved.
You need to define any field of life because I think we use two different sets of terminology. Furthermore, clarify those 4 elements involved. You are writing some very strong and unclear assertions. If I clarify myself, you might understand; when I say understanding and knowledge (U&K), I mean U&K of natural phenomena and technologies. Mostly, scientists are not decision makers; however, because of their understanding they might be good decision makers. E.g.; should people go into agriculture with the land they own? What should we do with nuclear waste? How should we eat? How should we help mentally ill people? Etc.
Generally, I would like you to be careful with what words you use, since you are speaking in very unclear; you are insulting people, you do not understand people, you make yourself hard to understand, you are preaching in such a way that you look narcissistic to some degree. Is that how you really are? Do you really believe God want you to be like that?
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You do not need evidence to understand--just reasons. evidence in and of itself is easily manipulated and can say whatever you want it to say. it has been done and is still being done.
I thought I already made that very clear; we have two different fundamental understandings of the world. I need evidence, which I think is very reasonable. Reason is a very fragile word to use in this context; what is reason? Reason is a very relative word when we speak of its meaning. Please, be clear in your speech, otherwise we cannot communicate with each other.
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if yo do not accept any truth, how can you live? you must be stuck in your apartment 24/7 then. the equation includes faith and if you cannot make that a part of your thining then you have problems because there will never be the all the physical evidence you want.
I am doing quite good I would say. I am a 22 years old student that is, at the moment, attending to a renewable energy programme. In my free time I go to boxing, I spend a lot of my time with my friends, I have spare time job in the financial sector soon (just had summer vacation), I am a spare time Viking, I plan to take a fireworker education just for fun, I am very interested in philosophy and social dynamics, I am the head of a company network association at my university, I am planning to study in Japan next year for or a whole year and bla bla bla I have quite an active live, and these things I do, I do because I think they are very good qualities to have in my life. It is not related to such strong words as truth. What the heck is the truth? Seriously, I have no idea. I get so strong and complex pictures and voices in my head which I cannot comprehend. In this case, I think I have a more differentiated idea of what the word truth implies, however, that does not mean I understand it fully. Faith is not an important part of my equation — which would imply a deterministic understand of life? I am somewhere between determinism and free-will I guess.
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but i see most of this as an excuse to avoid the truth, because you still turn to science we for answers even though it is looking in the wrong places and for the wrong things. if the above is true, then why are you using science? it won't help you because it has no truth, according to your thinking. you are just wasting your time.
you do not accept anything so even science can't help you. the only thing that will help you now is the Bible, you either accept or reject it you cannot make excuses like, i do not accept anything. that doesn't cut it in the real world.
secular science has been designed to fool you an dit has done a very good job.
You get me wrong; I do not turn to science — which is a clinic discipline to understand natural phenomena — when I look for answers on how to live my life. Okay sometimes if I want to know how I should train, eat probably or determine whether a project is economical feasible or not. I try to follow my underlying instincts to have a happy live; that is my goal, a good and happy life, and I will not be able to be happy by serve and pray something I most likely do not think exist. To believe in the Christian God would be equal for me as to believe in Allah, spirits, the painkiller Prophet, Cthulhu, Flying Spaghetti Monster etc.
Most of this is a little off-topic, however, basically, you did not provide any valid arguments; you refuse to understand the difference in our process of thoughts.
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