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Author Topic:   secularists do not want the truth
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Message 4 of 85 (575648)
08-20-2010 5:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by archaeologist
08-20-2010 4:58 PM

yet this is the story they make up to avoid the truth and cling to even though there is no evidence for its legitimacy:

The evidence is that it is logically and obviously true that the ancient woman who sits at the apex of a mitochondrial family tree is herself not the only woman who was alive at that time, and she must have inherited her mitochondria from her mother, and her from hers.

And, of course, the other piece of evidence is that you can trace male lineage through Y chromosomes (which only men inherit from men) back to another single individual "Y Adam", who lived almost 100,000 years after mitochondrial "Eve."

So, mitochondrial Eve had to mate with someone to have children, that someone was a man, that man must have had a mother. That mother would have been a woman necessarily older than mitochondrial Eve.

I mean, you can deny it, but you're simply denying the facts of life at that point - children are younger than their parents, men and women procreate.

even when secularists have the evidence rightin frontof them, they will not accept it.

How is mitochondrial "Eve" evidence for the Eve of the Bible, when the Bible says Eve lived 10,000 years ago and mitochondrial "Eve" lived over 200,000 years ago? There's just nothing to deny, here - you've become confused by the use of the name "Eve", but of course we have no idea what mitochondrial "Eve"'s name was, we just call her that.

it is up to you to make your choice to accept or rejectit but you cannot keep demanding more for it will not come.

If the Bible is true, why wouldn't more evidence come?

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Message 18 of 85 (575886)
08-21-2010 3:20 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by archaeologist
08-21-2010 3:08 AM

BUT as you can see in the article NO PROOF or EVIDENCE was offered for such a scenario

If you want to see the evidence you have to go to the actual peer-reviewed journal article, not the popular science reporting. Popular science reporters skip covering the evidence because it's really boring.

Science isn't done in newspapers, it's done in peer-reviewed journal articles. But, again - the proof of the notion that mitochondrial DNA is inherited matrilineally is that the ovum does not incorporate the mitochondria of the sperm during fertilization. Mitochondrial DNA must be matrilineal because the father's mitochondrial DNA is observed not to contribute to the zygote (we can watch fertilization happen under a microscope and know this to be true.)

to have 1 set of parents for all we do not need 200,000 years.

But we don't have 1 set of parents for all. We have one mitochondrial "Eve" 200,000 years ago, and one "Y-Adam" 100,000 years ago. And it takes 200,000 and 100,000 years because that's how long it took. It's like saying - "why does it take an hour to drive between Lincoln and Omaha"? Because that's how long it takes. That's how long the road is, that's the traffic conditions, that's the back-up caused by the construction along I-80.

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